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Successful Restarts Of Airlines  
User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Hey guys,

Was thinking.... what successful restarts have there been of airlines? I'm not thinking a momentary shutdown and then beginning operations again. I mean, airline shuts down, years later another company comes along, grabs the name and maybe other aspects and is successful.

The only one I can think of is Frontier, but I'm sure there are others.

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User currently offlineQXatFAT From Israel, joined Feb 2006, 2405 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

I pray to God Indy will become one of those  pray 


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting Flyf15 (Thread starter):
Was thinking.... what successful restarts have there been of airlines? I'm not thinking a momentary shutdown and then beginning operations again. I mean, airline shuts down, years later another company comes along, grabs the name and maybe other aspects and is successful.

By your definition, this is not a restart but a new start-up with an old name.

Germanwings would be an example for your enquiry. Originally a domestic German airline operating MD-83's, the airline was brought to bankcruptcy by former quasi-monopolist LH in 1991/92. LH bought the name and reused it on today's low-cost offspring Germanwings, which is in fact a daughter company of LH affiliate Eurowings.

[Edited 2006-04-18 08:40:14]


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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1807 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 2):
By your definition, this is not a restart but a new start-up with an old name.

Yeah, couldn't really think of the best way to phrase it.



I'd say something could be said about maybe some of the feeders out there, such as PSA.


User currently offlineAdriaticus From Mexico, joined May 2004, 1137 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

What about PanAm II? Is it still flying? Would this qualify as "successful"?

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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Quoting Adriaticus (Reply 4):
What about PanAm II? Is it still flying? Would this qualify as "successful"?

It is in fact already Pan Am III or IV. Successful? From the things I have heard about it, they hardly qualify for a success story.



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User currently offlineAlexPorter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Swissair and Swiss International are sort of like this - similar name and livery based on the Swiss Name, but not quite what you were looking for. F9 was the only true one that popped into my head as well.

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1696 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 5):
It is in fact already Pan Am III or IV.

AFAIK, the current (pseudo) PA is PanAm III. I'd be damned if there was a fourth spinoff of the name PanAm.


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

Qatar Airways was a young, poorly-run airline flying old aircraft (727-200s, 747-200s) when it was relaunched in 1997 (or was it 1998).


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 7):
AFAIK, the current (pseudo) PA is PanAm III. I'd be damned if there was a fourth spinoff of the name PanAm.

Well, if you wanne be really precise, the current incarnation is actually "Boston-Maine Airways dba Pan Am Mk IV". Officially, PA III never died, but when you consider that Guilford essentially grounded PA III and then restarted flying with Boston-Maine as the airline doing the flying, it is indeed PA IV.

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 5):
From the things I have heard about it, they hardly qualify for a success story.

Indeed, the current PA would fit more into the category of "How not to run an airline".


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