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Auckland Domestic Terminal To Be Given Major Upgra  
User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3091 times:

From AIAL:

People flying through Auckland’s domestic terminal will soon be greeted with floor-to-ceiling windows along the front of the terminal and more spacious interiors. The domestic terminal facilities at Auckland Airport are to be extensively upgraded and expanded as part of a $42m makeover to be undertaken jointly by Auckland International Airport Limited (AIAL) and its main tenant Air New Zealand.

The upgrade will involve the creation of a single unified and expanded terminal with the construction of a new retail precinct linking the two existing domestic terminals. Other key changes include: an expansion of the provincial airline gate lounge; expansion of the check-in area; higher ceilings and wide open spaces; larger windows along the front of the building; expanded security screening points; and a large number of aesthetic alterations.

Auckland Airport chief executive Don Huse says that the alterations would be significant, “We will be expanding and upgrading the terminal to become a fitting gateway to the rest of New Zealand and provide the services that passengers need in a relaxing and more spacious environment.”


Air New Zealand group general manager marketing, network and sales Norm Thompson says that passengers will notice a huge difference in the look and feel of the terminal once it is completed. “These improvements will bring the look and feel of the terminal right up to date; reflecting Air New Zealand’s own refreshed branding and creating a bright, open and roomy environment for our domestic customers.”

Auckland Airport’s masterplan review, which took place over the past two years and was recently released, gave more certainty to the timeframes for development of a new domestic terminal to the north of the current international terminal. Mr Huse says, “The new terminal is at least 10 years away. This more certain time horizon provides the investment confidence necessary for Auckland Airport and Air New Zealand to give the current facility the upgrade it needs.”

Mr Thompson says that the eastern end of the building used for provincial flights will be upgraded as well, “We are expanding this end of the terminal space by 1800 square metres to create a new gate lounge area for regional flights. Passengers on these flights will also no longer have to use the existing baggage claim facilities, with their own dedicated baggage claim area being built.”

In the check-in area, some of the mezzanine floor will be taken away, creating double-height ceilings which will lead to a more spacious feel to the terminal.

An exciting new retail area will be built linking the two terminals and creating a relaxing environment and a wider range of shops and services for passengers. This area will add another 2200 square metres of retail space and is expected to include a bookstore, bank, florist and other stores. Also included is a wide range of food and beverage outlets such as a bar, cafes and a fast food outlet.


This project is the latest in a series of works to be undertaken within the domestic terminal precinct, including new multi-level car parks and significant road engineering to provide a safe and more user-friendly environment.

The construction cost of $42m will be shared between Air New Zealand ($13m) and AIAL ($29m, which includes $11m for construction of the new retail precinct). AIAL’s returns on this investment will be derived from additional rental, aeronautical charges and retail income. Construction on the project will commence in May, the retail area will be finished January 2007. The entire project is expected to be complete December 2007.


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User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

TG992

That is excellant news and I must say, well overdue.The present NZ terminal is a disgrace - no fault of Air New Zealand I might add.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

Quoting TG992 (Thread starter):
The construction cost of $42m

Typical AIAL... always shortsighted... never building for the future... $42million now and then in 10 years build a whole new terminal... (and demolish the current one!) what a waste of money! they should start building the new terminal now...by the time it is finished in say 2 years time the old terminal will be at capacity and be ready to be transferred. That $42million is on top of all those new carpark buildings they just built next to domestic as well...



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User currently offlineFreedom904 From New Zealand, joined Feb 2006, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

It is good news they are upgrading, I hope they don't get rid of the Viewing deck outside though because I think like most of us we like the outside environment e.g. hearing jet engine's starting.

User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 932 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting 767ER (Reply 1):
The present NZ terminal is a disgrace

A disgrace? Come on... AKL International is a small airport and quite pleasant. It was only recently substantially upgraded. Customs need streamlining, but no more than MEL. Nothing needing new structure: just a little process analysis and better use of human resources. There are inadequate shops as one waits for the plane, but again, there is room for progress without spending a fortune. Transport to the city is mediocre. IMHO the biggest problem with AKL is the ridiculous manual payment of a departure fee at an airport bank.


User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

Quoting Antskip (Reply 4):
A disgrace? Come on... AKL International is a small airport and quite pleasant. It was only recently substantially upgraded.

I was referring to the NZ domestic terminal....sorry. The international is great!!



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6432 posts, RR: 39
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Quoting Antskip (Reply 4):
A disgrace?

The domestic terminal is a shambles. One side of Air NZ's terminal is still the same and they added new gates along the side which looks so much better. The carousel area is annoying if there are 2 full 737's arriving - why do they only use one? It makes no sense at all..

Customs is getting expanded.

Quoting Antskip (Reply 4):
Transport to the city is mediocre.

Have you tried the rest of Auckland's public transport? If you have, you will soon realise why the transport to the airport is so appaling. The plan within the next 15 years is to build a railway connecting the airport with Auckland's lines. Auckland probably has one of the worst public transport services in the modern world and by setting up these stupid tolls around the place without boosting the public transport needs of the city, the city will collapse.

Yeah, oh well.. There are no plans to expand either the NZ or QF terminals gatewise.. are there?



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User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 932 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 6):
Have you tried the rest of Auckland's public transport?

Yes, I have. It is substantially worse now than two years ago, since they re-structured / fragmented - but Perth's (Australia) is not much better.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 6):
The plan within the next 15 years is to build a railway connecting the airport with Auckland's lines.

I can't see why they would want to do that. Auckland Railway Station is lovely, but with no point, as there is very little movement in or out of it. The existing rail network is so poor that connecting to it would be sending people nowhere. Auckland is paying the price of years of lack of transport planning and investment.

[Edited 2006-04-20 07:54:22]

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9652 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

That is awesome. It is a small and crowded little terminal. I personally don't like it at all. After getting off a long haul flight, it is annoying to be in a terminal where there aren't enough seats for all those early morning flights. Also the check in lobby is crowded and seems to small.

The only good thing about the terminal is that the Koru Club is excellent.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting Antskip (Reply 7):
Yes, I have. It is substantially worse now than two years ago, since they re-structured / fragmented - but Perth's (Australia) is not much better.

um.... where did u get this from? the opposite is true... its now more integrated and rail in particular is booming.

Quoting Antskip (Reply 7):
I can't see why they would want to do that. Auckland Railway Station is lovely, but with no point, as there is very little movement in or out of it. The existing rail network is so poor that connecting to it would be sending people nowhere. Auckland is paying the price of years of lack of transport planning and investment.

see above... rail is booming... they have actually run out of trains to use they are full. They are in the process of upgrading most of the rail lines, building a busway from the northshore to Britomart (downtown transport hub), now if only they could extend a rail line to the airport and reopen the Onehunga line. Auckland airport needs rail... the reason why AIAL isn't supporting it as such is because rail would mean the airport would miss out on parking fees.



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5337 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2724 times:

I was thinking that they should start building the second International pier now, then build this walkway thing that will link the new Pier with the current one and in the short term use the second International pier as the domestic terminal, then build a new domestic terminal linked to the new International Pier further to the Northwest of the current. To have atleast a new International Pier used as domestic if they started soon they could have it going in a 2-3 years and save the $42 million they are going to effectively waste.

I agree the current domestic is a shambles!


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 10):
I was thinking that they should start building the second International pier now, then build this walkway thing that will link the new Pier with the current one and in the short term use the second International pier as the domestic terminal, then build a new domestic terminal linked to the new International Pier further to the Northwest of the current. To have atleast a new International Pier used as domestic if they started soon they could have it going in a 2-3 years and save the $42 million they are going to effectively waste.

good idea!  Smile
They would however have to extend the tarmac more to create more layover stands (where the 2nd intl pier is going is currently used as layover stands for 744's and to be A380's)



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User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 932 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 9):
the opposite is true... its now more integrated

The simple single 40 minute trip I took for years between Albany and Auckland City that used to take 40 mins now takes 1hr 10 minutes, two separate buses, two separate bus companies and two different tickets. To me that is not "more integrated", sorry.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 9):
rail is booming... they have actually run out of trains to use they are full

The number of rail trips (not passengers, which is much smaller figure of course) in Auckland in March was 18,000 a day (545,00 for the whole of March 2006). http://www.maxx.co.nz/media_releases...04b78-f206-b719-39e2-de9fa4d03623.
That compares to 138,00 per day on the whole Auckland public transport system. Those figures are taken from the Auckland Transport Authority's (MAXX) own news bulletins. In a city of Auckland's size that is tiny. That the carriages are full is indicative rather that a "full" Auckland rail system has a very low ability. At least after so many years Auckland is trying to fix the huge transport problems they have, and any half-decent local government would have planned to prevent. The aim apparently is to double the system's ability by 2016. Yet that again shows the very low expectations of Auckland transport. Comparing it with a somewhat functioning (far from ideal) public transport system such as Melbourne's shows the relative insignificance of what even the recent public transport plans for Auckland are going to achieve for the very long term.

[Edited 2006-04-22 05:15:38]

User currently offlineEddieIAH From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 39 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

Re Zkpilot's comment about the tarmac: it still seems more logical to build extra tarmac than terminals...where is this planned domestic terminal anyway if its north of the international expansion? That would make it a LONG way away from the rest of the airport.

On a tangent, I'm curious that Antskip said that Perth's transit is 'not much better' - I've found it to be one of the best-kept and most forward-thinking (certainly more so than I've seen in the USA), even if it has a problem with service frequency.


User currently offlineAntskip From Australia, joined Jan 2006, 932 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

Quoting EddieIAH (Reply 13):
Perth's transit is 'not much better

Yeh, I think I was a bit harsh on Perth's rail network, but the bus service is only ordinary, at least to Australian standards. I worried about equating Perth with Auckland, though I have suffered from it's shortcomings for several years. I am not comparing it to Canada or USA, as I do not have experience of them. On further reflection, I should place Auckland below Perth, especially in relation to rail. Compared to other major Australian cities, Perth's public transport in general I would still rate poorly.

[Edited 2006-04-22 06:57:01]

[Edited 2006-04-22 06:57:40]

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5337 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2553 times:

Quoting EddieIAH (Reply 13):
Re Zkpilot's comment about the tarmac: it still seems more logical to build extra tarmac than terminals...where is this planned domestic terminal anyway if its north of the international expansion? That would make it a LONG way away from the rest of the airport.

The new domestic terminal is going to be to the Norwest of the current International terminal. There is a second runway planned to the North of the current.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 11):
They would however have to extend the tarmac more to create more layover stands (where the 2nd intl pier is going is currently used as layover stands for 744's and to be A380's)

Yup i'm sure that wouldn't be a problem.


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting ZK-NBT (Reply 15):
Yup i'm sure that wouldn't be a problem.

of course not  Smile AIAL should have planned for that before they built those layovers.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

Quoting Antskip (Reply 12):
Those figures are taken from the Auckland Transport Authority's (MAXX)

well theres your answer... MAXX is having all the public transport under one umbrella compared to before.... as for your Albany to city example... they are building a high speed busway to Albany as we speak and already have park and ride bus terminals built in albany and constellation with another one for smales farm area. You would catch the local bus from say Massey University or Albany village to the bus terminal then catch the bus that leaves every 10 minutes to town.



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User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2714 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Quoting Antskip (Reply 14):
Yeh, I think I was a bit harsh on Perth's rail network, but the bus service is only ordinary, at least to Australian standards. I worried about equating Perth with Auckland, though I have suffered from it's shortcomings for several years. I am not comparing it to Canada or USA, as I do not have experience of them. On further reflection, I should place Auckland below Perth, especially in relation to rail.

Auckland is a looooooong way behind Perth on PT issues, trust me. I recently visited Perth and found it a breeze to travel from where I was staying in the Suburbs (somewhere slightly east of the city) to the beaches on both train and bus. And all on one, cheap ticket!! Who would've thought it could be so damn easy??!!

Auckland barely has a public transport link to the airport let alone the rest of the network. There's absolutely no point in trying to defend it because the entire thing is a joke.

The problems facing public transport are down to the same overall reason as those at the airport - privatised companies unwilling to invest the necessary amounts to provide even adequate services. AIAL will do all it can to maintain the current mess of domestic terminals, but will slap a bandage on in the form of some new cladding and windows to try and make it all seem so much better.


User currently offlinePilotdude09 From Australia, joined May 2005, 1777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

Auckland is using Perths old Diesel trains which have had a makeover in the hillside workshops in Dunedin, perth has one of the best networks in the country. So technically Auckland is 15-20 years behind Auckland in rolling stock. Auckland is not electrified where as Perth is and has been since 1991.
Theres a bit of rail history for you.  Wink



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