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BA744's Being Washed In HKG!  
User currently offlineTimetable From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 217 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

Hi, Whilst on a visit to HKG on 9/3/06 Thursday I noticed that BA744 G-BNLT having a big external wash in the dark. The aircraft was the 1st of 3 BA744's to arrive in HKG that day, and I'm wondering if it is common for BA744's to be cleaned in HKG. Many thanks From Timetable.

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User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12228 times:

Not sure about 747s, but in the 60s when I was BOAC Cabin Crew, HKG washed our 707s.


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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9670 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12128 times:

Have you never heard of Chinese laundry?

 Big grin

(sorry I couldn't resist)

Someone should tell Air France BTW



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User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11854 times:

Ive also heard that the BA planes get deep cleaned in johannesburg during flights as the downtime is quite long between arriving and departing flights.


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User currently offlineWrighbrothers From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1875 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11753 times:

Quoting BY188B (Reply 4):
Ive also heard that the BA planes get deep cleaned in johannesburg during flights as the downtime is quite long between arriving and departing flights.

As do they in SYD.

I think washing the planes is a way to use time up while the planes are sitting on the ground.

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User currently offlineBobg From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11753 times:

BA and VS are big users of the washing facility at JNB. A ground time of 10-12 hours and in daylight would make the job easier than HKG!

User currently offlineAirways From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11715 times:

A number of foreign carriers have their planes washed by HAECO in HKG. Beside BA, I know LX is another customer. Some airliners have a longer downtime at HKG than back home at base.

Michael


User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11644 times:

When the plane is on the ground it is not earning any revenue for the airline, so the simple explanation is that if there is a long turn-round (which is often the case for BA at 'far' destinations like HKG, SYD or JNB, as if the planes left earlier they would arrive back at LHR when it is closed), it is economic sense to give them a good wash over.


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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11528 times:

What better to do than taking a good shower when you have 6 hours on the ground in Hong Kong?  cloudnine 


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User currently offlineLeonB1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11495 times:

Also, don't forget there's a hosepipe ban in London at the moment!  Wink

User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3462 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11471 times:
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I'm sure CO does the same on it's 16 hour HKG sit time..


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User currently offlineIAHcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3462 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11362 times:
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Quoting LeonB1985 (Reply 10):
hosepipe

?? I presume that what we Yanks would call a garden hose??
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User currently offlineDavidT From Switzerland, joined Oct 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11300 times:

Yes.

Alternatively, BA could base all 744s at MAN. Plenty of water up here Big grin


User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11198 times:

Indeed there are 3 remote stands on the apron designated as washing bays - one each on the north, south and west aprons.

If you zoom to VHHH on Google Earth you can spot them easily as the concrete is darker along those bays because of the dirty water running off the aircraft.



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User currently offlineN484er From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 10811 times:

Few questions:
How long does it actually take to wash a B744?
Any special fluid used?
Is it expensive?
How many times are they washed (just when necessary?)?

Thanks!

N484ER  airplane 


User currently offlinePlanetime From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

Does QF wash their 744's @ LAX that are parked there all day?

User currently offlineAirways From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10556 times:

Well, it takes about 3.5 hours for a 747, you're looking at about US$ 2500 per wash.

Michael


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7802 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10427 times:

Quoting Airways (Reply 17):
Well, it takes about 3.5 hours for a 747, you're looking at about US$ 2500 per wash.

Does that include a coat of Turtle Wax and some new car smell sprayed under the floormats??



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User currently offlineGary2880 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10309 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 18):
Does that include a coat of Turtle Wax and some new car smell sprayed under the floormats??

no but you do get a complimentary pine tree air freshener for the rear view mirror in lavender.


User currently offlineRobTrent From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10309 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 18):
Does that include a coat of Turtle Wax and some new car smell sprayed under the floormats??

Perhaps a football air freshener to hang in the cockpit?  Smile

Regards
A still laughing R.



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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9696 times:

Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 19):
no but you do get a complimentary pine tree air freshener for the rear view mirror in lavender.

I heard that last time they had a plane cleaned someone nicked the furry dice hanging from the auto-pilot...

Incidentally, is all the external cleaning achieved by means of a high powered spray, or is there any hands-on scrubbing done?


User currently offlineRobTrent From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9436 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 21):
I heard that last time they had a plane cleaned someone nicked the furry dice hanging from the auto-pilot...

Wow ! Better watch those radios. Do they come with removable front plates lol

R  Smile



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7802 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9211 times:

Quoting RobTrent (Reply 22):
Do they come with removable front plates lol

Not sure if they do. You'd probably have to rip the dash out to get at them. My inside sources have told me that BA is upset at the washrack ppl @ HKG due to reports of a missing Oasis CD and about 6 quid in change missing from the cockpit.

The plane washers at HKG then just pointed BA management to the sign that says "Car wash not responsible for missing/stolen items or damage done"



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User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 9008 times:

I pay $7 US for a Passat. Inside and outside with shampoo and wax.

How much for a B747?

Do the pilot has to tip for the wash?



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User currently offlineRobTrent From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8952 times:

Do you Think AF could get a good deal there if BA pulls out. AF livery benefits from a good wash  Smile

R



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25 Post contains images FlyingColours : Brings a whole new meaning to the word "Jet Wash" Sorry Where do they wash their UK aircraft (like the 737, A32X etc...)? LHR, never seen it being don
26 Post contains images DL777Dude : Is the carpet vacuuming free with the wash? If not how many rolls of quarters do pilots carry with them for the vacuum? Watch out Maverick!!
27 IRelayer : So what you are saying is that, Air France doesn't fly to Johannesburg? :P -IR
28 LeonB1985 : I've seen it done near the BA hangars at LHR (not far from Hatton Cross and the Eastchurch Road(?) crossing).
29 TUGMASTER : FYI, As a footnote, CX also have their 747's washed over at the BMI hangar. I believe Fernleys have the contract. rgds Tugmaster
30 UAL747 : On a more serious note, what are the processes to clean an AA plane? I've heard it's quite time/energy intensive. I know that some AA 767/777's stay a
31 Post contains images DEVILFISH : It would be triple the rate for them!
32 Willyj : Is that honestly how much it costs in Mexico?!? It would be closer to 20 or 30 times that amount up here in CT!
33 FlyinTLow : From what I've seen with LH, they are cleaned during maintenance, mostly with long brooms and hands-on scrubbing, less with high-powered spray utilit
34 Meister808 : That would, uh, be between $140 and $210. I think I'd resort to the bucket of water and dish soap at that price. -Meister
35 Post contains images RichardPrice : Surely its better economic sense to do as *little* as possible to the aircraft during downtime, as then you arent paying for anything to be done?
36 FlyingColours : I think AF and a few other just try and fly through as many clouds as possible to try and "wash" their aircraft - at least that would explain everythi
37 Post contains images IFEMaster : Well look at the flip side of the coin. Eventually the plane is going to need to be cleaned anyway. It makes less economical sense to ground an aircr
38 Post contains images Flight7E7 : I surely hope the pax remember to roll up the windows before Bertha gets bathed. Although-with econimics today in the industry, a "two fer" would be w
39 WorldTraveler : I know this is an aviation forum but please don't ever use dish soap on a car.... it's a pretty fast way to strip off auto finishes.
40 FutureUALpilot : While I have not washed a 747, I have washed my share of aircraft. I work for a company in SAN that washes ROns for a few different airlines now. We u
41 Post contains images Komododx : Actually dish soap is good to use if you wax your car, as this removes wax and leaves a clean clearcoat ready for a new coat of wax. But to stay on t
42 Post contains images Phuebner : Enter Smelly French joke here.
43 Post contains images BBJII : The Cleaners do a good job for BA Connect at LCY.... STN/Inflite MX has a good facility. NWI/CBG/SEN are renowned for this service.
44 Post contains images Qfsis : IFEMaster, at that price I'd want the works PLUS a 20,000km "bird poop" guarantee for a free rewash!
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