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Accident At The Paris Air Show '99  
User currently offlineMike From Germany, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

A SU-30 crashed in Le Bourget Airport during the international Paris Air Show '99. The aircraft went out of control for the pilots when they were doing a looping. The plane was in a too low altitude to be saved. The two pilots could eject and are safe. A Mig 29 crashed at the same place 10 years ago.


Mike


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User currently offlineIce Cream Man From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Wow ! What is the deal with displays at militairy airshows ? Seems like they push the envelopes just too much for the sake of showing off their aircraft.

User currently offlineC-GAGN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2938 times:

Can anyone count the number of aircraft that have crashed at the Paris Airshow over the past years? It must be at least 20!

User currently offlineBryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2938 times:

Is the SU-30 the new Russian fighter with the canards in front of the wing? I've seen a couple pictures of a plane that looks like that, but they didn't say what is was. The plane looked a bit like the SU-27 with canards.

User currently offline777rules From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Russsia planes are not reliable!

User currently offlineWorldTraveller From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 624 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

I saw the crash on TV yesterday and it looked really scary!
The plane (they said it was a Su-27, not -30) was like "dancing" around in the air, then came very close to the ground while the pilots tried to give full power to the engines to avoid ground contact which then occured while the back of the plane caught fire, managed to get up in the air again while the pilots ejected horizontal... then the plane crashed in an explosion.
I think the aircrafts are fine but the pilots try to push the limits further and further which is sometimes just to much for them...


User currently offline767-400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Russian military aircrafts are very reliable.
They can operate and land one dirt runways, and able to operate in the coldest winter, to the hottest summers.
As one person said, Russian miltary aircrafts are like Ford, and the American military aicrafts are like Ferrari.
Im not saying I don't like American planes.


Rooz


User currently offlineFarleymac From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

anyone see the video on the www someplace?
mike


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

So, Russia planes are not reliable! ah ah ah

You don't know the cause of the crash, obviously and you don't know the amazing Su-27, or you wouldn't say that.

Luis, Faro, Portugal


User currently offlineWorldTraveller From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 624 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Dear Farleymac!
The video of the figther jet crash is available at the BBC web site at http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/on_air/default.htm

Regards,
WorldTraveller


User currently offlineLaurent From Belgium, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2939 times:

According to the French news, this is the 8th accident in 40 years of Le Bourget airshow. The worst accident happened in 1973 when a TU-144 crashed on the nearby village of Goussainville, killing the crew and a number of Goussainville inhabitants.

User currently offlineDeltaShuttle From United States of America, joined May 1999, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (15 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2938 times:

Mirage and 767-400ER are right. Russian aircraft might not always be the prettiest or have the most sophisticated gadgets/electronics, but they can perform. Back when the U.S. got its hands on a MIG-25, they were amazed that a plane with that kind of design but had such awesome flying capablilities. I think the reason why Russian planes get a bad rap is that most people don't know that a lot of times human error is involved in accidents involving Russian aircraft- look at the airline safety record there. It's not that a Tu-154 is a terrible airplane, but when you have ground crews using lemonade as hydraulic fuel, of course the plane's going to crash! (I'm not sure if the plane did crash, but I hope you see the point.)

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