Mike From Germany, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2817 times:
A SU-30 crashed in Le Bourget Airport during the international Paris Air Show '99. The aircraft went out of control for the pilots when they were doing a looping. The plane was in a too low altitude to be saved. The two pilots could eject and are safe. A Mig 29 crashed at the same place 10 years ago.
BryanG From United States of America, joined May 1999, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2816 times:
Is the SU-30 the new Russian fighter with the canards in front of the wing? I've seen a couple pictures of a plane that looks like that, but they didn't say what is was. The plane looked a bit like the SU-27 with canards.
WorldTraveller From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 624 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2816 times:
I saw the crash on TV yesterday and it looked really scary!
The plane (they said it was a Su-27, not -30) was like "dancing" around in the air, then came very close to the ground while the pilots tried to give full power to the engines to avoid ground contact which then occured while the back of the plane caught fire, managed to get up in the air again while the pilots ejected horizontal... then the plane crashed in an explosion.
I think the aircrafts are fine but the pilots try to push the limits further and further which is sometimes just to much for them...
767-400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2816 times:
Russian military aircrafts are very reliable.
They can operate and land one dirt runways, and able to operate in the coldest winter, to the hottest summers.
As one person said, Russian miltary aircrafts are like Ford, and the American military aicrafts are like Ferrari.
Im not saying I don't like American planes.
Laurent From Belgium, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2817 times:
According to the French news, this is the 8th accident in 40 years of Le Bourget airshow. The worst accident happened in 1973 when a TU-144 crashed on the nearby village of Goussainville, killing the crew and a number of Goussainville inhabitants.
DeltaShuttle From United States of America, joined May 1999, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (14 years 10 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2816 times:
Mirage and 767-400ER are right. Russian aircraft might not always be the prettiest or have the most sophisticated gadgets/electronics, but they can perform. Back when the U.S. got its hands on a MIG-25, they were amazed that a plane with that kind of design but had such awesome flying capablilities. I think the reason why Russian planes get a bad rap is that most people don't know that a lot of times human error is involved in accidents involving Russian aircraft- look at the airline safety record there. It's not that a Tu-154 is a terrible airplane, but when you have ground crews using lemonade as hydraulic fuel, of course the plane's going to crash! (I'm not sure if the plane did crash, but I hope you see the point.)