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Why No Mexican Carriers Fly To Either YEG Or YYC  
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Posted (8 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

With thousands of pax flocking to Mexico all winter long and with hundres of charter flights from YEG and YYC to many destinations in Mexico, why is it that there's no regular service (even during winter) operated by either of the Mexican carriers....

What would prevent them from operating such flights

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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7591 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 17 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

MX is considering adding YYC. I guess we will know soon whether they will go ahead with a non-stop route from a Mexican airport.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 16 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

Something several from down here don't understand at all. There are many Canadian companies that charter flights to beaches and even make profits of supposedly a "low yield" market...

One of the reason that could come to my mind was (i) CINTRA's lack of management, strategy, charter division, and mid-long term projects and (ii) I kind of think that mexican companies think that leisure and charter = too much work for very few profits back.

Supposedly, last year MX was considering YYC! Hopefully we soon have more news...

g77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Poor planning, Poor planning, Poor planning........


we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

Quoting Orbis (Reply 3):
Poor planning, Poor planning, Poor planning........

Im not sure its poor planning. In my opinion, AC has swept most of the market in that area for vacationers heading down south.

Personally, I think there is a lot of hesitation for flying on a Mexican-based carrier. Many people that I know are just a bit skeptical about flying on an airline of that nature. Having flown MX a few times, I know they are far from the best airline, but they are not yet the worst. I'm not sure if its a racial thing or not, but I certainly hope its not.

Just my $0.02 (CDN)

Cheers,
Boeingfanyyz  airplane 



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User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 5 hours ago) and read 4149 times:

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 4):

Its not a racial thing. People just prefer their country's airline.


User currently offlineMham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3679 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 hours ago) and read 4128 times:

Interestingly, yesterday I heard from Toronto immigration official that the latest trend in illegal immigration is to fly Mexico to Canada and either cross the northern border into the US where its much easier(no desert, less enforcement/mile), or stay in Canada. When the Mexican carriers feel theres a demand, they'll start service.

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 hour ago) and read 4075 times:

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 4):
I'm not sure if its a racial thing or not, but I certainly hope its not.

Right some prefer to fly their countries carriers, but if its a racial thing thats called IGNORANCE!

g77 APM



Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineLeDragon From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

Isn't Mexicana a partner of Air Canada ? I think Air Canada code share on Mexicana for flights to and from MEX. Maybe that is why Mexicana don't fly to some canadian cities.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7591 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3982 times:

Quoting LeDragon (Reply 8):
Isn't Mexicana a partner of Air Canada ?

They stopped being partners on March 31, 2006. No more codeshared flights and no more mileage accrual and redemption possibilities. It is rumored that AC will launch YVR-MEX. MX on the other hand, may consider MEX-YYC, as mentioned earlier, and has rescheduled the MEX-YYZ flight. Expect more aggressive fares now in the Mexico-Canada routes that are served by both carriers. In addition, AM has been mentioned as a new entrant to the MEX-YYZ route, but this is unconfirmed as of today... at some point the flights were loaded in the reservations system, but they no longer show up, so who knows.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineOrbis From Mexico, joined Dec 2003, 244 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Quoting LeDragon (Reply 8):
Isn't Mexicana a partner of Air Canada ? I think Air Canada code share on Mexicana for flights to and from MEX. Maybe that is why Mexicana don't fly to some canadian cities.

Codeshare agreement ended on March 31st.



we should live our lives as if we were really alive!!! H.M.
User currently offlineWolsingerjet From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3918 times:

Actually you may all be surprised to know that from July to August this year Aeromexico will be flying Mexico city-Edmonton charters catered to bring in mexican tourists to west edmonton mall and jasper.The carrier will use 757s for these flights,as mexicana did two years ago.


Guess what???I dont like you either...
User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3827 times:

A number of years back both Mexicana and Aeromexico flew to YYC.

I think one of the two will soon connect to Calgary.
BOth times were in the form of charter flights similar to the ones that are going to take place for Edmonton this year.
I hope that there will be a Mexican connection this year..
Even if it is not from the Capital city, I'm sure resort destinations may still be able to do well.



Chance favors the prepared mind.
User currently offlineWolsingerjet From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

I remember back in the early 90s Taesa used to fly a 727-200 from Puerto vallarta to Edmonton for a winter charter program.Now it seems all the western canada to mexico flights are handled by Transat,Skyservice,and westjet,off course there is the MX service to YVR.


Guess what???I dont like you either...
User currently offlineAirportGuy1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

From YYC you can make a quick one stop in Denver to PVR, ACA, CUN, SJD, CZM, ZIH on Frontier.

You'd have to clear customs twice but it's do-able


User currently offlineWolsingerjet From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

What routes to mexico does UAL offer from Denver?We get twice daily service to Denver by them at YEG.I would be willing to do that run in the off season.


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