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BA & IB. Which The Future Will Be?.  
User currently offlineDme From Portugal, joined Mar 2004, 110 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4879 times:

According to the Spanish finnancial newspaper 'Expansion' (in Spanish, http://www.expansion.com/edicion/exp...presas/es/desarrollo/641243.html), the executive committes of British Airways and Iberia held a meeting in Madrid fifteen days ago. Since the last meeting was held in 2003, do you think there will be any news about the future strategy of both companies?.

My best regards,

Pd. See also my post "http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2696915".

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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5665 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4840 times:

It's possible they'll do a deal similar to AF/KL. BA was on/off on a KL deal themselves a couple of times. Consolidation among the Euro-Legacies is going to happen.

User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

I dont see that happening. BA/IB have just canx a very good codeshare route to VLC, BA used them, but now for some reason its gone, as have a few other routes. If BA were going into partnership, do you not think they would have kept them
Anyway, IB need to really revamp service if they were going to partner with BA, customer service especially, and change the euro product

[Edited 2006-04-24 16:04:49]

User currently offlineIberia340600 From Spain, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4783 times:

DME....I dont think its a matter of "if" but "when" it will happen. The fact that their is a race to consolidation in Europe is quite visible. I believe IB and BA are looking to see how this is working for AF/KL and at the same time waiting to see what is going to happen with the open skies protocol. I give it maybe 1-2 years before we see some kind of announcement come forward.

Visca Barça!!
User currently offlineBA380 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 1466 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

I would have thought this, or a similar deal, is inevitable.

BA, following the AF/KL tie-up and the LH/Swiss merger, will need to do similar to keep up with synergies. Whether it is with IB, or indeed with Aer Lingus, Finnair or others, will probably happen.

IB would appear to be a good fit geographically, whereas Aer Lingus would be more limited.

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User currently offlineFoxDelta From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4695 times:

Quoting Trekster (Reply 2):
BA/IB have just canx a very good codeshare route to VLC

BA (via GB Airways) comes back to VLC from LGW as we speak, while IB will again fly VLC-LHR-VLC as of May 1st mainly due to pressure from Valencia Gov't and the business community.

Cheers  arrow 

User currently offlineTCXDegsy From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4430 times:

I read a report somewhere over the past couple of days, may even have been here, about Iberia. Said it was in a healthy position, and that any buy-out would take the buyer 6 years to cover the cost of the outlay.

BA, as a comparison, would take a buyer 8 years to pay off the capital outlay.

Maybe BA dropped the codeshare to pave the way for a merger?

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User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4341 times:

What sort of government restrictions might exist between the Spanish and British government from allowing this to happen? IB has been privatised for almost ten years now, but BA still is under some control by the government, correct?

Also, if anyone could possibly list the advantages to such "merger." I understand that KL is substantially smaller than IB, so therefore it made it easier for AF to 'incorporate" them into the fleet. KL's fleet type (consistent with AF's), KL's route structure, mostly international (outside of Europe) to increase the AF international dominance...etc.

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User currently offlineScotron11 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1276 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4315 times:
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Quoting 767-332ER (Reply 7):

IB has been privatised for almost ten years now, but BA still is under some control by the government, correct?

The UK government has no control of BA whatsoever.

BA have ruled out any direct merger with IB for the foreseeable future and are happy to continue with their present investment.

I do believe that once OpenSkies with the US becomes reality, if, then the dynamic will change. Remember, at one point BA had a 25% stake in QF, which they sold last year.

Then again, maybe they don't have the money. Or they could be taken over themselves!

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