ATLAaron From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1018 posts, RR: 4 Posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3760 times:
So I was thinking that Delta bookings would be sharply down as everyone was fearing the strike but I have a ticket to fly ATL-LAX on April 30 according to Delta's website the 767 going there is 100% full.
Anyone know if these flights are normally that full?
FlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1626 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3732 times:
That flight along with the ATL-MCO flight have always had a large draw. I haven't noticed any lower than usual bookings on anything leaving JFK.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3718 times:
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8772 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3336 times:
Keep in mind that the seat maps aren't an accurate indicator. For example, on the 767, bulkheads and a few other rows are blocked out for airport use only, and then you might not be able to see the seats reserved Medallion/full fares only.
ClearedDirect From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 271 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2849 times:
I think they added a 777 to that route as well (ATL-LAX)
Burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2849 times:
Quoting ATLAaron (Thread starter): So I was thinking that Delta bookings would be sharply down as everyone was fearing the strike but I have a ticket to fly ATL-LAX on April 30 according to Delta's website the 767 going there is 100% full.
Don't trust the websites, I have had it where I looked on the Delta website and then looked at the true loads thanks to a family member, the Delta website seat map thing showed the flight was 100% full. Then when we looked at the actual load it had 50 seats left open.
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4105 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2743 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW FORUM MODERATOR
Those flights don't surprise me as full, those are large connecting destinations. Also it seems that ATL-LAS is the same way, huge O&D and connecting market.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 2557 times:
Quoting ClearedDirect (Reply 7): I think they added a 777 to that route as well (ATL-LAX)
That is only temporary to keep the plane flying instead of sitting on the ground at ATL as just a backup aircraft. Soon the 777 will be off ATL-LAX again.
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 2424 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 9): Don't trust the websites, I have had it where I looked on the Delta website and then looked at the true loads thanks to a family member, the Delta website seat map thing showed the flight was 100% full. Then when we looked at the actual load it had 50 seats left open.
if you are seeing a flight with every seat assigned and yet there are still seats available to sell, there is obviously a fairly high no-show rate on that flight so overbooking is occurring. However 20% on a 763 (just a hypothetical aircraft since you didn't mention the type) is rather high. There are blocked seats but there is also a no-show factor and thus overbooking to compensate. Given the relatively low fares to many LAX destinations, demand should be strong and the no-show rate is probably fairly high. Typically lower fares and walkup fares generate the highest no-show rates.
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 2286 times:
DL has been operating a +80% load factor. An airline never wants to operate a L/F this high because somewhere in the system you are leaving pax at the gate. LAX is the worlds Top 5 O&D airport, full flights make sense in this market.
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4590 posts, RR: 26 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 2146 times:
Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 16): but I'm not sure how to interpret that table
#s in brackets are the seating capacity numbers; other numbers are the number of seats available. Therefore, pretty much all of the listed flights have seats available in both cabins except for DL1126 which is oversold by 9 in Y
UsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 2039 times:
Quoting ClearedDirect (Reply 7): I think they added a 777 to that route as well (ATL-LAX)
i flew on a 777 LAX-ATL back in march. It was a redeye flight. The gate agent said that it was one of the last times the 777 would be on that route. I was lucky to be on it.
Also, the flight was oversold by about 50 people. If the china southern flight had been ontime, all those standby pax would have been spending the night in LAX for the morning 764 flight back to ATL
Delta4eva From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 1997 times:
Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 15): I'm sorry, but I'm not sure how to interpret that table - are those loads, capacities, load percentages, or what
The first # after the aircraft number (ie 757) is the first class available seats, followed by (#) which is the capacity. The second is coach seats available, followed by (#) which is also capacity.
Delta4eva From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 344 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 1968 times:
Quoting ATLAaron (Reply 20): Bummer, I tried rather hard to get on the 777 flight but it just did not work for the company travel. Instead I am on flight 263.
The 764 is still a great aircraft. No PTVs though, unless you are in First.