7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3586 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 1 month 20 hours ago) and read 2190 times:
I know that international flights operated out of the "blue barn" at PHL but didn't some operate out of Concourse B? I found a picture from June of 1989 showing Concourse B with the USAir planes and a Mexicana Plane at the end...i cant tell what gate it is. Any info? thanks
p.s. Are there any pictures of inside the blue barn? I was never in it but am curious to see what it was like.
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Phllax From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 396 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 2083 times:
Mexicana and TWA operated the departures of their international flights from Concourse B, but all arrivals went to the barn. Before moving to E, TWA was in B with AL/US. TWA moved to E when A was completed and AA moved from E to A. The Mexicana flight RON in PHL. LH (1st time), BA & AF (1st time) operated exclusively in the barn.
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 10 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
Back in the 1970's, I flew out of this terminal many times. It was a very spacious building that if memory serves me correctly, was the former PA ANG hangar that was gutted and transformed into a terminal building, hence it's cavernous size. Seating was wide open with no separate gate facilities. Because this terminal was on street level, passengers simply entered the ramp through several numerically marked doors facing airside. On the far North end, there is a jetway that use to belong to TWA. This jetway may still be in place. It was a non-standard design because it was used for widebodies where passengers needed to go from street level, all the way to this higher wide-body aircraft position.
There is a partial second level that use to have several airline offices (BO, LH, AZ, AF, TW, PA, SR & charter airlines), but these are all vacated now. Some of the old airline signs can still be seen in the "reversed mode" out by the old curbside check-in. For people that flew out of this once busy facility, it has a surreal feeling of being a ghost town now. When I last pulled up there, I could hear the 707's, DC-8's and VC-10's that once parked there!
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1710 times:
Vega..I have always thought that this would be an ideal area for WN to operate out of. I kind of disagree that it is too small. Additionally, there is a fair amount of empty real estate to the south of this building, if they wanted to expand it. Traditionally, WN is not in the business of building terminals, but a little cooperation with the City of PHL and they jointly build a miniature SNA style terminal that would relieve gate space at PHL. Remember, this terminal was used for many years for overseas carriers with wide body airliners and served for many years as the MAC hub terminal for trans-Atlantic operations. The terminal can easily seat about 1000 passengers at a given time. A quick check of a typical gate at most airports usually yields about only 50% available seats, to what aircraft may actually be parked at the gate. There would actually be more room at this location. Furthermore, WN has always been far more a "stand alone" airline that does not rely upon interline with other airlines, making this terminal a good opportunity.
USPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3266 posts, RR: 8 Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1601 times:
The "Blue Barn" closed about 1991, IIRC. All international ops were moved over to A at that time. I can't imagine what it was like to board/deplane in that cramped terminal. Was the customs on-sight? It looks so small from that satellite image. I'm amazed they haven't torn it down yet.
BHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1286 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 12): Was the customs on-sight? It looks so small from that satellite image.
Yes, Customs and Immigration were on-site and while it looks small on the outside, inside it was very roomy and spacious. When I passed thru there several times in the late-70's there was not much activity on in the building, even with several flights processing at the same time (BA, LH, TW)
I don't remember much about my visit there, it was all ground level boarding and a shuttle bus took passengers to the main terminal for connections..
Crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1495 times:
USPIT10L...Cramped terminal? Just look at the dimensional width of this building compared to the Concourses at the main terminal. There was far more available room in this building than any of the boarding areas of the main terminal.