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Transaero To Lease 19 Airbus & Boeings  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4189 posts, RR: 89
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4154 times:
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Transareo of Russia are reported to add the following to their fleet this year;

2 x 734
2 x 744
6 x 738 (New Build)

They are also in negotiations with Airbus to lease;

5 x A320 and
4 x A340

For delivery this year

All these frames are reported to add to the fleet and are not for fleet replacement.

Unfortunately it doesn't mention which model for the A340. Does anyone have any further information as to which A340 model? Also, where will they get the 744s from? Sorry no link available.

Thanks and Regards, PanAm_DC10


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6941 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
Does anyone have any further information as to which A340 model?

I wonder where they are coming from. I'm assuming that they will be A340-300s. Who is currently phasing them out? Virgin? Air France? Lufthansa (or not yet)?


User currently offlineVivaGunners From Italy, joined Oct 2000, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4097 times:

I guess some A340s could come from Air Canada as well. Aren't they going to receive some of their 4 B773ERs in 2007?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26626 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Quoting VivaGunners (Reply 2):
I guess some A340s could come from Air Canada as well. Aren't they going to receive some of their 4 B773ERs in 2007?

Air Canada would be a good bet, but is Airbus the lessor on that deal?



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4071 times:

Quoting VivaGunners (Reply 2):
I guess some A340s could come from Air Canada as well. Aren't they going to receive some of their 4 B773ERs in 2007?

Yes, in 2007, but above it says they will be added this year, which eliminates the ex-AC planes as candidates. That said, I have absolutely no idea who is retiring any A340s and neither know of any in storage.
As for the 744s, aren't there still a few 744s in storage in SoCal, on which UA rejected the leases?


User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4062 times:

I read that AtlasJet will get three A343s from VS. Is VS phasing them out? Then Transaero might get theirs from VS.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26626 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4053 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4):
As for the 744s, aren't there still a few 744s in storage in SoCal, on which UA rejected the leases?

All of UA's lease rejections have been placed or are in the process of placement and all the planes that UA decided to sell have been sold.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
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Transaero could get their 744's from Singapore.

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9906 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

I just wonder if Transaero can fill all these aircraft yearround. Can they afford so many aircraft? And why both Boeing and Airbus which is more expensive to operate. I smell political involvement here, am I right?

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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3679 times:

Many thanks PanAm_DC10 for this absolutly unexpected Transaero fleet plan topic.

User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

They really need to do some cosmetic improvements in my opinion. A few of their 763ER are in absolutely horrible condition, really dirty and nasty aircraft. Their 747 is used to Tel Aviv if I remember correctly, so that plane is probably nice, as it is very new. But a interior would not hurt them. I can't imagine flying to Montreal on those 763s, a 4 hours flight was enough for me on one of those.

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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3594 times:

Why B737 and A320? Wouldnt it make more sense to have a standard short haul fleet?


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User currently offlineHb88 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 817 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 1):
Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
Does anyone have any further information as to which A340 model?

I wonder where they are coming from. I'm assuming that they will be A340-300s. Who is currently phasing them out? Virgin? Air France? Lufthansa (or not yet)?

This might be a stupid question, but why would they have to be acquiring them from another carrier. Is it possible that they are leasing new build 340s?


User currently offlineLazyshaun From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3417 times:

Hb88, they are to be delivered this year, and I don't think Airbus will go out of their way to make and deliver them this year, with all the a340 they have to make for the other airlines.

However if they are 343, which is likely, there are currently no a343 on order are there? In that case could these 343 be made on a different line to the a345/6?

This is a long shot, and not very likely to happen when there are just 4 a340.

Virgin would be likely candidates for the ex-a343 theory I suppose...or Lufty or Airfrans. Emirates not in a hurry to phase out their 343 are they, what with all the other stuff arriving now...?



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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

About A340s , i am just thinking of the Jet aw machines which are leased from SAA.The very 1st A330 for Jet aw has already done its first flight and should replace these A340s which have to be returned.If SAA doesn't need them , maybe they can lease them to Transaero ?

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6941 posts, RR: 63
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

Quoting Hb88 (Reply 12):
Is it possible that they are leasing new build 340s?

Unlikely. If they were new-build then Airbus would almost certainly list them as 'sales'.

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 13):
there are currently no a343 on order are there?

There are at least six still on order. Airbus sold three last year (Air Mauritius?) and Finnair ordered three just last month.

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 13):
In that case could these 343 be made on a different line to the a345/6?

All A330s and A340s are made on the same line. So long as that line exists I can't imagine why Airbus would need to establish a separate one for the A343. Unless, I suppose, demand for the A343 was so great that they needed a second line...  Wink

Quoting Lazyshaun (Reply 13):
Emirates not in a hurry to phase out their 343 are they

The Emirates planes are all owned by and leased from Boeing. As I recall, the lease agreements are until the end of this decade or thereabouts. I don't see these A343s leaving the EK fleet until they're replaced by 787s or A350s.


User currently offlineVORFMD From Austria, joined Feb 2005, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Heard in Austrian Media today that Transaero will start new Flights DME-VIE as well as from other Destinations in Russia to VIE. No further details known yet.

User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4189 posts, RR: 89
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 15):
Airbus sold three last year (Air Mauritius?)

That is correct sir

Quoting PM (Reply 15):
The Emirates planes are all owned by and leased from Boeing.

Not anymore. Boeing have started to dispose of the A343s they took on trade from SQ. Boeing Capital recently sold 2 to WOLF LLC as subsidiary of Willis Lease Finance Corporation, whilst the airplanes remain on lease to EK, EK has the right to "put" the airplanes back to the Leasing entity at anytime they wish. Oasis Leasing, based in Dubai, recently purchased 25 Airbus airplanes which were on lease to various airlines, from Airbus' Finance division. Some A343s were included in this package. Oasis is in partnership with WOLF LLC. So perhaps some of these may end up being the frames if EK disposes of them. WOLFs were to go to a Turkish carrier Atlasaero(?) but financial difficulties have prevented this from taking place.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6941 posts, RR: 63
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3140 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 17):
Boeing Capital recently sold 2 to WOLF LLC as subsidiary of Willis Lease Finance Corporation

Aha. Fascinating. Thanks. Any way of discovering which frames these were?


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4189 posts, RR: 89
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3086 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 18):
Any way of discovering which frames these were?

PM I do not have the C/N for them which prevents me from getting the registration. An enquiry elsewhere might just provide the clarification you seek sir  Wink

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

A340s, 767s, and 747s.
Nice long haul fleet, but all of the fleets are fairly small. UN's fleet has always been so confusing to me.



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