Manni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2924 times:
Justplanes is just plain wrong when it comes to counting orders. As an example, note how they have included 15 widebody aircraft from the AI order that was booked last year and how the QF order for 787's is missing aswell as the order for A350's and A343's from Finnair, the A330's for QF and the A345's for Kingfisher. Some of the A320's included in their list have been booked last year aswell.
DeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
The easiest and best place to look is right here on A.Net. hamlet69 does an excellent job sorting out signed orders, pending orders, and cancellations from both manufaturers sights and other sources. One of the best threads here in my opinion.
AirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2836 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2504 times:
Bear in mind, Airbus likes to horde their orders, and announce them/put them on the books when it is most expediant from a P.R perspective to do so. That tends to be the airshows, or slipping orders backwards into december to avoid getting embarresed.
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1144 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2382 times:
Hamlet seems to do a much better job because he breaks out the pending vs firm, which justplanes doesn't do. As time goes on, their listing is just going to get more inaccurate because of orders or announcements that didn't happen.
To add to the confusion, they never updated the Airbus total for the 150 A320 order from last year. If they added it to this year it would be OK, but it's still not posted.