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US Employees Stage Job Walkoff At PIT  
User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 506 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4412 times:

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/business/s_447871.html
http://www.timesonline.com/site/news...=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=6

New contract negotiations for PSA workers at PIT have come to a standstill. On 4/26 workers walked off the job for a few hours in PIT

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21472 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Organized strike while under a valid contract?

Should be suspended or fired for breach of contract.

I support your right to strike. But if you want the company to follow the rules of a contract, so must you. You can't strike while still working under a valid contract, even if the negotiations for a new contract are not to your liking.

Claimed it wasn't organized. Sorry, you can't get 95 people (or is it 73, which article is right?) to all do the same thing without some kind of organization...



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2660 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Should be suspended or fired for breach of contract

Agree... that sure isn't going to help negotiations!!! Just shooting yourself in the foot!!



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Organized strike while under a valid contract?

Should be suspended or fired for breach of contract.

I support your right to strike. But if you want the company to follow the rules of a contract, so must you. You can't strike while still working under a valid contract, even if the negotiations for a new contract are not to your liking.

Claimed it wasn't organized. Sorry, you can't get 95 people (or is it 73, which article is right?) to all do the same thing without some kind of organization...

They've been without a contract for almost five years. Get your facts straight! I hate it when the news media get the facts completely wrong. I know/knew at least ten people who worked for PSA. In fact, with all the attention mainline got about contracts, strikes and the like in the last three years, PSA has had articles written about them in one Pittsburgh paper, the Beaver County Times. Not once have I heard about PSA in the Post-Gazette or Tribune-Review.



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User currently offlineTooluther From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4055 times:

It also wasn't an organized strike. It was simply workers who are frustrated and acted on it. The Teamsters and Management are still in active talks.

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4016 times:

They dont seem to have a dispute with US. Only with PSA which does contract work for US. The thread should be renamed "PSA Employees Stage a Job Walkoff at PIT"


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User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3799 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 5):
The thread should be renamed "PSA Employees Stage a Job Walkoff at PIT"

YES.

US employees did not do this...PSA employees did this.

-SOAC



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User currently offlinePgtravel From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 446 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3782 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 3):
They've been without a contract for almost five years. Get your facts straight! I hate it when the news media get the facts completely wrong.

Actually, I believe that under the Railway Labor Act, contracts never expire, they only become amenable. So, they are negotiating while still under the previous contract. Either way, a strike is illegal. If this was an organized union action, there could be severe financial penalties for the union. Since it looks to be more of a individual action, each individual will have to face their own penalties.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3724 times:

Quoting Pgtravel (Reply 7):
Actually, I believe that under the Railway Labor Act, contracts never expire, they only become amenable. So, they are negotiating while still under the previous contract. Either way, a strike is illegal. If this was an organized union action, there could be severe financial penalties for the union. Since it looks to be more of a individual action, each individual will have to face their own penalties.

They've had slowdowns before, whether it be a "Safety Day" where every piece of ground equipment in sight is tagged "Out of Service" or other forms. They start at $6.77 an hour. That's the lowest start pay in the COUNTRY. I can't believe I almost accepted a job with these clowns. Luckily, it was a slow day yesterday, so it's not like a lot of people missed their flights.



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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5104 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3715 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 3):
They've been without a contract for almost five years.

No they haven't. Not in this business. While the contract may have been amendable for five years, most contract negotiations call for retroactive pay adjustments that cover the period of amendability. Of course, given the current employment situation at airlines, having a job to go to may be seen by some as a blessing.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3710 times:

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 9):
No they haven't. Not in this business. While the contract may have been amendable for five years, most contract negotiations call for retroactive pay adjustments that cover the period of amendability. Of course, given the current employment situation at airlines, having a job to go to may be seen by some as a blessing.

Please, I'd rather not argue about this. I can count on two hands the amount of people I've talked to and or know from PSA that I've either worked with at DGS or during my training at PSA. Yes they have worked five years without a current contract. The starting pay and top-out pay is still the same. The PSA gate and ramp agents are not represented by the IAM or TWU. Their union is the Teamsters.



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User currently offlineGritzngravee From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Lock their asses up like the Mayor did to the Union leader of the MTA in NYC. He was just released this morning for good beahvior, he did 4 and a half days. I'm sure he will think twice about it the next time a contract is up for negotiation.

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Quoting Tooluther (Reply 4):
It also wasn't an organized strike. It was simply workers who are frustrated and acted on it. The Teamsters and Management are still in active talks.

What good can possibly come from walking off a job? Will that make management want to give them raises and more benefits?

If my boys walk - they can keep walking. Frustrated? Pop a Tylenol and get your ass back to work.



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
Organized strike while under a valid contract?

Believe it or not, this was not organized. The union had nothing to do with it.

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 9):
most contract negotiations call for retroactive pay adjustments that cover the period of amendability.

This isn't one of them.



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User currently offlineMah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2807 times:

http://www.timesonline.com/site/news...=2305&PAG=461&dept_id=478569&rfi=6

15 of the protesters were just fired for this walkout a week ago. It really is quite a shame.


User currently offlineJsposaune From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 291 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Quoting Mah584jr (Reply 14):
15 of the protesters were just fired for this walkout a week ago. It really is quite a shame.

Yes, it is a shame that they performed an illegal job action by staging a wildcat strike, thus violating the Railway Labor Act!

...lucky there weren't more than 15 of 'em fired!

just my $.02



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

Quoting Jsposaune (Reply 15):
Yes, it is a shame that they performed an illegal job action by staging a wildcat strike, thus violating the Railway Labor Act!

...funny then, that a U.S. District Court Judge refused to issue an injunction that PSA requested barring the Teamsters from additional walkouts, finding instead that there was no evidence that the union had supported the first walkout.



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