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How's SkyWest Doing In Aspen, CO?  
User currently offline146CREW From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 211 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4556 times:

Does anyone have any info on how the CRJ-700 is performing for SkyWest in Aspen? Any weight restrictions; etc?


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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4467 times:

I knew a guy that flew on one last month. He said that it preformed nicely, but the aircraft wasn't even close to being full. I can't imagine a CRJ-700 being able to takeoff out of Aspen with a full load. I am very curious, anyone else have any info?

User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5845 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4441 times:

As of right now, UA has it working the RON. During these times, it performs quite nicely to DEN.


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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4438 times:

Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 1):
I can't imagine a CRJ-700 being able to takeoff out of Aspen with a full load.

Then how do all those 757's manage to get outta there?



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4407 times:
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Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 3):
Then how do all those 757's manage to get outta there?

Since when does ASE have 757's?



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User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 847 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

ege gets all those 757's

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4384 times:

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 3):
Then how do all those 757's manage to get outta there?

757s don't go into ASE. Used to be that the only airliner you'd see there was the BAe-146 (or Avro RJ, depending on the carrier), but now the CRJ700 has been added to the mix.

From what I've heard, it does have to take weight restrictions - limited to about 50 pax.

-Mir



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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4335 times:

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 3):
Then how do all those 757's manage to get outta there?

What? Nothing that big goes in there. Nice try.

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):
757s don't go into ASE. Used to be that the only airliner you'd see there was the BAe-146 (or Avro RJ, depending on the carrier), but now the CRJ700 has been added to the mix.

From what I've heard, it does have to take weight restrictions - limited to about 50 pax.


Yeah that's what i figured.

[Edited 2006-04-28 03:12:16]

[Edited 2006-04-28 03:13:10]

User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4326 times:

Sorry guys my bad I was thinking of EGE......


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

I should add the Dash-8 to the list, I think that plane did a few ASE-DEN routes.

-Mir



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Any shots in the data base at ASE? What other flights does ASE have?


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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4313 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
I should add the Dash-8 to the list, I think that plane did a few ASE-DEN routes.

They still do, 6 of the 7 flights to ASE are Dash-8's.


User currently offlineOOer From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1440 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 6):
From what I've heard, it does have to take weight restrictions - limited to about 50 pax.

Only if the weather is not good. I have looked at the flight several times...never seen it booked over 50, but ops always adds the limit numbers in the flight anyways, last time i checked it was limitted to 66 pax at about 3400 lb of cargo. Tonight the flight is limited to 66 pax and 2100 cargo, but it only went out with about 40 people or so.


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7343 posts, RR: 28
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

During mud season, there is going to be very limited demand in and out of ASE. This is the slowest time of the year, post ski season.

User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4146 times:

ASE has service from US Airways Express/Mesa Airlines, with a daily Dash-8 to Phoenix.


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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

Hey how far apart are ASE & EGE?


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 15):
Hey how far apart are ASE & EGE?

Just over 64 miles.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 16):
Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 15):
Hey how far apart are ASE & EGE?

Just over 64 miles.

By air or by road? There's a big difference between the two in Colorado.

-Mir



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User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

I would think they could do the flights going into ASE with a full passenger load because fuel would have burned off inbound. Outbound is the problem.

right?


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 17):
By air or by road? There's a big difference between the two in Colorado.

The distance N1120A provided is by road, according to Mapquest:

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/m...970%2d524%2d9490%7cUS&2qc=Airports

The GCM route is a little less than half of that, only 29 miles

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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 18):
I would think they could do the flights going into ASE with a full passenger load because fuel would have burned off inbound. Outbound is the problem.

right?

Well, inbound is not the problem, outbound is. So sure, they could go in to ASE with a full load, but what if they had execute go around at ASE? Climbing out with a full load is hard to do. Check out the terrain around ASE. Pilot's have to go from 8,000 feet to 14,000 right quick.
http://www.myairplane.com/databases/approach/pdfs/05889LDE.PDF


User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 20):
Well, inbound is not the problem, outbound is. So sure, they could go in to ASE with a full load, but what if they had execute go around at ASE? Climbing out with a full load is hard to do. Check out the terrain around ASE. Pilot's have to go from 8,000 feet to 14,000 right quick.

I guess the question then would be does the weight of the fuel burned off from DEN-ASE weigh more than 20 or so passengers?


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5845 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3913 times:

Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 20):
they could go in to ASE with a full load, but what if they had execute go around at ASE? Climbing out with a full load is hard to do. Check out the terrain around ASE. Pilot's have to go from 8,000 feet to 14,000 right quick.

All of that has already been taken care of by the performance provider.



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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3897 times:

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 21):
I guess the question then would be does the weight of the fuel burned off from DEN-ASE weigh more than 20 or so passengers?

Yeah, I don't imagine the CRJ-700 going into ASE with full tanks. Do you think they might fill up every time they go back to DEN and not even bother with it in ASE? That way they have enough fuel to make it back, but are not adding the weight of additional fuel in ASE.

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 22):
All of that has already been taken care of by the performance provider.

I guess it would have to be to perform at and airport like ASE. Good catch.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21092 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

Quoting Phelpsie87 (Reply 11):
They still do, 6 of the 7 flights to ASE are Dash-8's.

Must be an off-season thing (or a "we don't have ZW's 146s anymore" thing). I flew DEN-ASE last winter on a 146, and there was another 146 scheduled for a half hour later, and another one for a half hour after that.

-Mir



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25 Phelpsie87 : My guess, its more a "we don't have 146's anymore" thing. I flew on a Dash-8 and I was surprised at how well it preformed.
26 FriendlySkies : I think it's more a mix of UA testing the aircraft out of ASE to see how it performs, and the fact that it's a slow season right now so they don't rea
27 CWAFlyer : 66 is all the airplane carries, Chief.
28 CWAFlyer : Weight is weight, whether the plane lands in ASE with X amount of fuel or they add fuel to bring it to X to depart. Mostly it's going to be a matter
29 Mir : If it were me, I wouldn't tanker fuel into ASE, especially in the summer months. -Mir
30 MSNtriathlete : Were the airlines required to execute a demo go-around with a CRJ-705, or did they get to start flying them in without that? The go-around requires sp
31 Post contains images AirEMS : I'm wishing for a return of the CV-580's personally Fly & Work Safe
32 CWAFlyer : Yes, but in a 700 not a 705.
33 DLKAPA : 64 miles of very rugged mountain driving including two trips over the Continental Divide, over Independance pass (being one of the worst in Colorado
34 Post contains images MCIFlyer : Heck, if gas prices in Aspen are any indication of jet fuel prices...I sure as hell would taker fuel into ASE from DEN! I'm kidding...I know it doesn
35 Apodino : Let me tell you something. I NEVER EVER sent a flight into ASE that wasn't round trip fueled sort of speak. I always made sure I had enough fuel to g
36 DLKAPA : They can't just head over to EGE or GUC?
37 OOer : Last I checked you are required to have 45 mins of fuel on top of what your burn would be. So getting back to DEN would not be a problem... Also EGE,
38 Mir : That is a very good point, and something I overlooked. EGE is not much of an alternate - the approaches into there have pretty high minimums. As for
39 DLKAPA : The ILS in GUC only takes you down to 800 AGL.
40 ASE747 : It was written on friday in the Aspen Times that 1 gal of jet fuel was $4.19....think about that before you fill up.....in town its $3.79 for your car
41 DLKAPA : Can anyone say "Price Gouging?" Even in Durango before I moved out it never got above $3.20 for regular.
42 Goldenshield : Yes, but it's 45 minutes at CRUISE burn rates, which isn't anywhere near the burn rate used to perform a go-around, or missed missed approach, which
43 ASE747 : I just looked @ the flights on May 10 ASE-DEN & DEN-ASE on the 2 CRJ-700 flight that are running. ASE-DEN UA 6716 F 6-4 Y 60-66 UA 6742 F 6-5 Y 60-63
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