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How Many U.S. Cities Have Direct London Service  
User currently offlineDeltasju777 From Puerto Rico, joined Feb 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11205 times:

Good evening I was just wondering how many U.S. cities have direct London service. It seems that you can get there non-stop from any major city in the states. Does anyone know which, if any major cities do not have non-stop service to London?

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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11202 times:

Which are you asking about? Direct service? Or non-stop service? There's a difference.

Mark


User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11186 times:

Looks like PDX, HNL, and ANC don't.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11169 times:

SAN, IND, STL, MSY, HNL, PIT, PHX, MEM do not have non-stop service, at least in May 2006. All can be considered major cities. Also Kansas City, the AUS/SAT region.


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User currently offlineJetBlueLuv From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 114 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11169 times:

MEM and BNA do not.

Doesn't American fly to London from RDU?


User currently offlineDeltasju777 From Puerto Rico, joined Feb 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11158 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 1):

Sorry I was asking about nonstop service specifically.


User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11158 times:

PHX has daily non-stop British Airways service to London-Heathrow on a 747-400.


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11141 times:

Quoting JetBlueLuv (Reply 4):
Doesn't American fly to London from RDU?

Yes, BOS, RDU, JFK, LAX, DFW, MIA, ORD, no longer STL.



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User currently offlineDreamflight767 From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11141 times:
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RNO, OAK (maybe some charter), SJC, MCI(?)

User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11131 times:

I'm bored so here goes.
My guess (22 non-stops):

BOS
NYC
EWR
PHL
BWI
IAD
CLT
ATL
MCO
MIA
CVG
DTW
CLE
ORD
MSP
DFW
IAH
DEN
PHX
LAS
LAX
SFO
SEA


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11131 times:

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 8):
OAK (maybe some charter), SJC

Those are airports, but the market is served.

He asked about which Cities, and I assume he meant markets, since technically, San Francisco has no flights, Dallas has no flights, Chicago has no flights, Cincinnati has no flights...



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11123 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 6):
PHX has daily non-stop British Airways service to London-Heathrow on a 747-400.

It isn't daily. That's why I missed it. I was checking wednesdays and it doesn't seem to fly PHX-LON on wed. But it does fly on Friday.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11123 times:

Quoting JetBlueLuv (Reply 4):
Doesn't American fly to London from RDU?

Yes, and it is highly subsidized by drug makers.

Current US-LON flights:

LAX-LHR (UA, AA, NZ, BA, VS)
SFO-LHR (UA, VS, BA)
SEA-LHR (BA)
LAS-LGW (VS)
PHX-LHR (BA)
DEN-LHR (BA)
DFW-LGW (AA, BA)
IAH-LGW (BA, CO)
ORD-LHR (UA, BA, AA)
MSP-LGW (NW)
DTW-LHR (BA)
DTW-LGW (NW)
JFK-LHR (UA, AA, BA, VS, AI, KU)
EWR-LHR (BA, VS)
EWR-LGW (CO)
JFK-STN (MY, E0)
BOS-LHR (AA, BA, VS)
IAD-LHR (UA, BA, VS)
BWI-LHR (BA)
PHL-LHR (BA)
PHL-LGW (US)
MIA-LHR (BA, VS, AA)
MCO-LGW (BA, VS)
TPA-LGW (BA)
ATL-LGW (BA, DL)
CLT-LGW (US)

I think that should be everything, but I may have missed something



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11111 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 11):
It isn't daily. That's why I missed it. I was checking wednesdays and it doesn't seem to fly PHX-LON on wed. But it does fly on Friday.

PHX-LHR is 6 days per week



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User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11103 times:

I think CO has at least seasonal 757 service from CLE-LGW. Is there a CVG-LGW DL flight?


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User currently offlineDeltasju777 From Puerto Rico, joined Feb 2006, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11103 times:

Thanks for the responses. It must be the most served nonstop destination overseas from the states.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11103 times:

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 14):
I think CO has at least seasonal 757 service from CLE-LGW. Is there a CVG-LGW DL flight?

Sorry, totally missed that.

CLE-LGW (CO, seasonal)
CVG-LGW (DL)



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4019 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11081 times:

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
SAN, IND, STL, MSY, HNL, PIT, PHX, MEM do not have non-stop service, at least in May 2006. All can be considered major cities. Also Kansas City, the AUS/SAT region.

You can also throw SLC and PDX into that mix as well. I think SAN gets a BA flight once or twice per week to LGW. Both SLC and PDX are larger markets than MEM or MSY.



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User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 11074 times:

I thought PDX and SAN used to have BA service, but that was pulled in the past few years.


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User currently offlineVega From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11040 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 17):
SAN, IND, STL, MSY, HNL, PIT, PHX, MEM do not have non-stop service, at least in May 2006.

PHX does - all year on a BA 747.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 11025 times:

Quoting Amhilde (Reply 18):
I thought PDX and SAN used to have BA service, but that was pulled in the past few years.

SAN did have service, but it was pulled. I don't know of any BA service to PDX, and there are no pictures that I can find.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 17):
I think SAN gets a BA flight once or twice per week to LGW.

No, they don't. SAN had daily and near-daily service, but that was cut a few years ago. Also, the flights were transfered to LHR

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 17):
Both SLC and PDX are larger markets than MEM or MSY.

Actually, while the Portland metro area is larger than Greater New Orleans by about 650,000 people, the Salt Lake Metro Area contains about 250,000 fewer people



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6514 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10560 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
Actually, while the Portland metro area is larger than Greater New Orleans by about 650,000 people, the Salt Lake Metro Area contains about 250,000 fewer people

Not to mention the fact that London-New Orleans service would have far greater market potential than London-Salt Lake (and likely PDX since they already have a FRA flight). The only thing that SLC would have going for it is the fact that it's a DL hub, but the local O&D traffic from there to London would be minimal at best. Still, I don't forsee service to ANY of the three mentioned markets from London within the next several years...especially SLC/PDX...MSY is supposed to be quite the booming market over the next few years so we'll see what pans out.


User currently offlineNateDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10557 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 12):
IAH-LGW (BA, CO)

+ IAH-ORD-LHR (BA)



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4019 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10523 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 21):
Not to mention the fact that London-New Orleans service would have far greater market potential than London-Salt Lake (and likely PDX since they already have a FRA flight). The only thing that SLC would have going for it is the fact that it's a DL hub, but the local O&D traffic from there to London would be minimal at best. Still, I don't forsee service to ANY of the three mentioned markets from London within the next several years...especially SLC/PDX...MSY is supposed to be quite the booming market over the next few years so we'll see what pans out.

Sorry, but New Orleans is a $$$ poor declining market dealt a lethal blow by Katrina. 27 years ago SLC lured the NBA Jazz from there, just maybe they might steal the NFL Saints, and being one of the high growth MSA's in the USA, the Wasatch Front will get direct LGW or LHR service into SLC long before they ever put it into MSY! SLC would be a far greater return for ANY carrier than MSY.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21456 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10499 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
PHX-LHR is 6 days per week

That explains it. So they just don't run wednesdays.

Quoting NateDAL (Reply 22):
+ IAH-ORD-LHR (BA)

Yeah, you beat me. No 8th freedom, but it must be worth it to run it.



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25 MSYtristar : The city was not dealt a death blow. Things are on the up and up here. Hardly the "poor, declining market" that you think it is. In fact we just land
26 Flynavy : Don't forget SFB-London, on various carriers.
27 Ikramerica : The Utah Jazz sounds funny, too. I agree that New Orleans has a place in international tourism. I was surprised that BA or VS or someone didn't fly t
28 Tiger119 : - I thought it was more like X3 or X4 times a week, not a daily. - ORD isn't in the city limits of Chicago? I thought I saw uniformed C.P.D. officers
29 Flamedude707 : What is the difference?
30 AsstChiefMark : LIT-ORD-LHR is a direct flight. It stops in Chicago, but continues on to London. So there's direct service to London from Little Rock. The ORD-LHR po
31 Post contains links SW733 : Don't forget AI is on that route, too. Both ORD and MDW are in fact INSIDE Chicago city limits...in the case with ORD, take a look on a map of the ci
32 TwoLz2Rn : Why does CLE have ONE european route...never really got it...
33 Post contains images Garri767 : well you guys still havent found the way to Amarillo so not us Garri767
34 COSPN : How many UK, Ireland Cities have Flights non-stop to the USA ??? London,Glasgow,Edinburgh ,Birmingham, Manchester, Bristol, Belfast,Dublin, Shannon, C
35 SJCRRPAX : THe biggest cities in the US without service to London are SAN, SAT, and SJC.
36 Ikramerica : No, that is not the definition of direct service. Direct service is one flight number through flight from one city to another. IAH-ORD-LHR is, in fac
37 SJCRRPAX : Its also a big city... check the list. Look at where San Francisco is on the list. A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE ON THE PLANES TO EUROPE ARE FROM SAN JOSE. W
38 SJCRRPAX : Sorry, I just noticed the list is obsolete. San Jose is now bigger than Detroit.
39 Joeman : Because the "hub" carrier CO, places the vast majority of assets and energy into EWR and IAH.
40 DCAYOW : Twenty four US markets have service to London: 1) Boston 2) New York Newark 3) New York JFK 4) Philadelphia 5) Baltimore 6) Washington Dulles 7) Ralei
41 Gunsontheroof : Markets are defined not by city population, but metro area population. This list is very misleading with respect to market sizes. Boston and Seattle
42 CentPIT : Wouldn't PIT be considered larger than SAT? I can't even imagine SAT being larger.
43 Steeler83 : If you consider the M.S.A. population it would be. I think SAT has between 1 and 2 million, while PIT has 2.4 million roughly...
44 Lastordu : That's the only reason that a 777 is what is used and not a 767. The drug maker would buy out the hole flight and still need more seats. The two head
45 SJCRRPAX : I guess it depends upon where the marketing people think the market is, but San Diego is really not service well because of the inadequate airport. S
46 Post contains links Skip17 : Not true at all. Being a former citizen of Salt Lake I know for a fact that the Salt Lake area and Metro area has over 1,000,000 people. But as well
47 MSYtristar : If there was demand, I'm quite sure DL would add it. Problem is, I'm not sure that SLC is even considered a U.S-London gateway city under Bermuda 2.
48 EFCar98 : Is that because DTW's population is shrinking due to murders?
49 Skip17 : It was considered and applied for but the slot was given to Raleigh, North Carolina and AA. The Salt Lake Valley has 2 fortune 500 companies and a num
50 Ginger727 : Flynavy is correct about SFB. In fact, Orlando Sanford Airport has eight (8) carriers all flying nonstops to and from cities all over the UK. It is no
51 Gunsontheroof : Both good points. Pittsburgh has a larger metro area than San Antonio, so the market is quite a bit larger. The city of San Antonio however, has over
52 N1120A : Because there isn't any demand. From your site: Salt Lake Area: 1.2 million
53 Joeman : But there is from some smaller U.S. metro areas
54 MSYtristar : Population for the sake of population doesn't really come into play when you're talling about Transatlantic service. The U.S city either has to be a h
55 CLE757 : That is not true, its because IAH and EWR come first and CO is lacking aircraft right now.
56 CXA330300 : My list: 24 cities BOS JFK EWR PHL BWI IAD RDU ATL MCO TPA MIA CLE (Seasonal) CVG DTW ORD MSP DFW IAH DEN PHX LAS LAX SFO SEA
57 MAH4546 : Delta has, unsuccessfully, applied with DOT for SLC-LGW service in the past.
58 MSYtristar : Hmm interesting, I did not know that. How long ago was that?
59 MAH4546 : 1998, the last year that the DOT opened up applications for new US-London gateways. American asked for SJC-LGW, Delta for SLC-LGW, and the winner, Vi
60 MSYtristar : And certainly that was the smartest choice of the three routes which were applied for.[Edited 2006-04-30 17:18:50]
61 DCAYOW : It actually TWENTY FIVE markets... how could I forget LAS VEGAS!!!
62 Post contains images Steeler83 : That is quite all right... Another comment regarding this: Pittsburgh did not annex any land in decades. It has maintained the same area since at lea
63 Post contains images CentPIT : Same here...
64 NYCFlyer : Has AA ever tried SJU-LON? Would that work? Would there be enough demand for that? Here's a guess why it might not exist: perhaps not enough British/E
65 Post contains images Misbeehavin : Not sure about AA, but BA used to do SJU a couple of times a week. It was dumped along with a host of others.
66 Post contains images Steeler83 : I just thought of something else regarding this... You don't have to agree with me on this, this is just my opinion here... Suppose that they do buil
67 N1120A : San Francisco
68 Gunsontheroof : That would be a pretty significant land acquisition... Agreed, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed my time there. If nothing else, you can claim Jeff
69 Steeler83 : True... But NOT Christina "Gag"uilera... ewwww... I know that PIT may be losing population, but if she was to leave, she would not be missed... I am
70 Post contains links SJCRRPAX : Well, I really wouldn't expect someone from France or Los Angeles to know this, and I certainly wouldn't expect some one from San Francisco to admit
71 MasseyBrown : When I lived in the Bay Area (Alameda), SF was going through one of its periodic tourist recessions. The Chron predicted that "The people of SF will
72 CHI787ORD : You forget AI ORD-JFK[Edited 2006-05-01 07:11:59]
73 CentPIT : We will take what we can get!!!! She does have some pipes, not going to lie!
74 Gunsontheroof : Yeah, but everybody is going to know it's mostly because of a massive land acquisition that has made it one of the largest cities in the country in t
75 CentPIT : Well, while I agree with you, I have to believe that Pittsburgh has more notoriety than SAT already!
76 Post contains images Steeler83 : Ok, I'll give you that. But there is someone I would NOT want in da burgh... May I refer you to British Airways about... THAT... um, guy... If you ne
77 Post contains images Gunsontheroof : Exactly my point. City population doesn't mean much. I still find it hilarious that people refer to cities by their airport codes when discussing non
78 N1120A : Whole is the word and no, that wasn't the deal. The drug companies made sure the flight would break even by subsidizing the premium classes, and AA w
79 VV701 : The US gateway cities listed in Bermuda 2 do not include Salt Lake City - except for NYC and LON Bermuda 2 focuses on cities not airports. The Bermud
80 Post contains images Gr8Circle : Add AI on the ORD - LHR sector
81 Skip17 : IAD-STN MaxJet needs to be added as well.
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