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Cocktail? That Will Be $5 With A Credit Card.....  
User currently offlineN587NK From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 300 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6884 times:
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what are y'alls thoughts on that. Spirit has been doing credit card only for almost 2 years now.

I know other airlines do to...AirTran does and ATA is going to a cashless cabin.

As a customer do you feel it is fair to do that??

Most of our customers know we only accept credit cards, but once and a while you will get that customer that says "YOU DONT TAKE CASH?" no we sure dont, if i take it I'll get fired

How does everyone feel about it?

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User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6838 times:

If it's a cheaper way of doing business and all passengers carry credit cards, why not?

It's a little unfortunate for people who have just lost/had their credit cards stolen, though. Some people need a drink after such an occurence. Would your airline make an exception for circumstances like this on compassionate grounds?


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6838 times:

In some coutries, not accepting cash is simply not legal...
Teva



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User currently offlineDaleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3207 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6831 times:

I think it's rather silly if you're not told before flying. Is this for alcoholic drinks only or is it for all drinks? If it's all drinks I think it's ridiculous.


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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4627 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6816 times:

I don't see the problem, most people who are travelling will have at least one credit card somewhere. I can see how it would be easier than accepting cash, usually the F/As don't have much change and smart travellers offer to pay with big bills or foreign currency and will generally get a free drink  Smile


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User currently offlineAirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3702 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6759 times:
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It's a great idea. By eliminating cash, or liquor revenue climbed by more than a $100,000 per month. Makes you wonder where that money was going to before doesn't it? Maybe the flight attendants pocket?


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User currently offlineRobTrent From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6729 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
Maybe the flight attendants pocket?

That's a little harsh I think.
I am sure there are a number of reasons that could account for the losses one being the excessive charges made by banks for cash processing.

As for the credit card issue - I still think people should be able to pay with cash and not everyone has a credit card beleive it or not, particularly older folks.

Just my 2 pence worth !
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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Quoting Teva (Reply 2):
n some coutries, not accepting cash is simply not legal...
Teva

...like the United States of America...unless there is an alternative i.e. check or credit card.
Perhaps too many F.A's were pocketing the cash. Perhaps too many pax were paying with twentys and there just wasn't enough change generated. Who knows why the carrier(s) want the cards only?
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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4805 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6706 times:

Quoting Teva (Reply 2):
In some coutries, not accepting cash is simply not legal...
Teva

I would have thought that was the law in most countries...
I know in New Zealand and Australia it is... Electronic transactions here are so widespread (we have one of the highest EFTPOS/ET penetration rates in the world) but cash is still Legal Tender and it is illegal to not accept cash as a payment (unless the cash is something like more than $10 worth of coins, or a large note is used and change is not available).



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User currently offlinePetmbro From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6624 times:

I was actually wondering why other carriers don't already do this. I flew CO to Mexico a few weeks ago and I was going to buy a drink but I couldn't because I didn't have any cash on me. For people like me who usually don't carry cash and prefer to use their cards, I think allowing cards and cash together would give a few more people the opportunity to buy drinks while still allowing those people who like paying cash to do so.


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User currently offlineNWHPDTW From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6622 times:

First, while bank charges for handling cash can be expensive, credit card processing fees are not necessarily much cheaper. See Wal-mart's disagreement with Mastercard from a few years back for a recent example of this.

Second, I don't know how the laws are exactly written, but could the airlines require customers wanting to use cash to buy a voucher or gift card on the ground to use in flight for services? It keeps the cash on the ground and still allows cash customers a way to get what they want. Just a thought.


User currently offlineArt From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6580 times:

Quoting NWHPDTW (Reply 10):
but could the airlines require customers wanting to use cash to buy a voucher or gift card on the ground to use in flight for services? It keeps the cash on the ground and still allows cash customers a way to get what they want. Just a thought.

It's a thought but it adds time for the customer and how does the customer know how much will be spent in advance of boarding? If a $20 voucher is bought and only $8 is used, how do you get the balance back without that taking more time at your destination?


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
It's a great idea. By eliminating cash, or liquor revenue climbed by more than a $100,000 per month. Makes you wonder where that money was going to before doesn't it? Maybe the flight attendants pocket?

They probably also have better control over the liquor kits as well. When I worked at FL, a lot of times, there were sealed bags of liquor kits stuffed under the last row of seats on a/c with rear galleys. So if you were cleaning the cabin, and the crew had gotten off the a/c, you could easily snag these bags, put them in with your cleaning stuff, and walk off the a/c and put the liquor in your bag. Several of my friends had a shelf in their house full of the mini bottles from the liquor kits.

As for the cashless cabin system, at first, I didn't like the idea mainly because I didn't want paper copies of the imprint of my card floating around. I did relent and used it on a recent flight to LAS. I noticed the last time I flew on FL that if you use the Bye Pass kiosk to check in for a flight, you can purchase drink coupons. I wonder if the option will ever be made available for those checking in online or use a multi-airline check in kiosk (Some airports [Like LAS] do have self check in kiosks that allow you check in for a number of different airlines at a single kiosk. Saves you from having to roam around looking for your airlines' kiosk(s), especially if you get dropped off in the wrong spot.).


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6560 times:

Quoting NWHPDTW (Reply 10):
Second, I don't know how the laws are exactly written, but could the airlines require customers wanting to use cash to buy a voucher or gift card on the ground to use in flight for services? It keeps the cash on the ground and still allows cash customers a way to get what they want. Just a thought.

CO has a function that allows you when checking in to buy coupons for on board purchases at the eticket machine. And the more you buy the cheaper they are.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6515 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
It's a great idea. By eliminating cash, or liquor revenue climbed by more than a $100,000 per month. Makes you wonder where that money was going to before doesn't it? Maybe the flight attendants pocket?

I read somewhere that credit cards are among the least expensive form of payment to accept when things like bank charges, fraud, forgeries, bad checks, and counterfeit currency are factored in. [I think the breakdown was Credit, Gift Cards, Cash, Checks]

Quoting Art (Reply 11):
It's a thought but it adds time for the customer and how does the customer know how much will be spent in advance of boarding? If a $20 voucher is bought and only $8 is used, how do you get the balance back without that taking more time at your destination?

As alluded to in a previous post, Continental has "Continental Currency" that has a face value of $5 -- the more you buy the more of a discount you get, though -- and everything on board (headphones, alcohol) costs $5. They do accept cash, though, always with the emphatic "...and correct change is GREATLY appreciated..." announcement.

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User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6457 times:

Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 5):
It's a great idea. By eliminating cash, or liquor revenue climbed by more than a $100,000 per month. Makes you wonder where that money was going to before doesn't it? Maybe the flight attendants pocket?

No comment there, but you have to wonder. Considering that credit card companies tack on a "vendors" (processing) fee, you have to wonder where the extra $100,000 came from



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Are there still american carriers who offer drinks free of charge in Y class ( like Air France..) ???


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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6410 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 16):
Are there still american carriers who offer drinks free of charge in Y class

Alcoholic?? NW offers those for free on transatlantic flights. Domestically? Not that I know of...


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6384 times:

Some airlines in Europe still offer alcoholic drinks free of charge on international flights (KLM just have re-introduced free alcoholic beverages to be in-line with Air France policy)
I recall free drinks also on Turkish Airlines,Lufthansa,SAS,Swiss and TAP..



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6384 times:

3 more questions for our American friends. In the USA:

- What's the legal age for kids to have cards ?
- What is the limit to travel as UM?
- If you are between those 2 ages, does it mean you cannot buy a drink on Aitran or Spirit?

Teva



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User currently offlineTmarch291 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 147 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6316 times:

Teva to answer your questions,

1) I think its 18. Many kids however, have them below that age because they are registered to their parents.

2) It varies by airline I think. For most airlines a child can't travel un accompnaied below five. Ages five to fourteen require that the child must be looked after by a FA, and accompanied by a FA or airport personnel when changing planes. After age fifteen, the kid (teenager) is good to go by himself.

3) I believe that they would ask for photo ID if you look below 21.


User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6294 times:

Quoting Teva (Reply 19):
- What's the legal age for kids to have cards ?
- What is the limit to travel as UM?
- If you are between those 2 ages, does it mean you cannot buy a drink on Aitran or Spirit?

You have to be 18 to have a card in your own name, but your parents can sign you up for a "prepaid" credit card much younger.

However, the drinking age for alcoholic drinks in flight is 21 in the US. So there's no chance that someone would be too young to have a card and old enough to drink.

As to the limit for UMs, it varies by airlines.



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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1871 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6257 times:

Tmarch291,
I think you misunderstood my 3rd question.
Let's say you are 15, and travelling alone.
You are no longer a UM.
But you are too young to have a credit card,as per your reply.
What happens if you want to buy a coke? (because you finished those given by your mom?)
I think that this can happen to thousands of young people every year.
Teva



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21476 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Quoting Tmarch291 (Reply 20):
3) I believe that they would ask for photo ID if you look below 21.

Yes, they do, though I was served in F at 16 and 17 as I looked over 21 and I was in F. I wasn't asking to be served. I would ask for a bloody mary mix, and it would often come as a bloody mary. I would send it back, since I really wanted a bloody mary mix...



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6712 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6187 times:

Quoting Teva (Reply 22):
Let's say you are 15, and travelling alone.
You are no longer a UM.
But you are too young to have a credit card,as per your reply.
What happens if you want to buy a coke?

It's not really relevant since most of the LCC's offer complimentary soft drinks, juice, coffee, etc. -- only alcoholic beverages carry an additional charge. Allegiant charges for soft drinks, I believe, but they're free on AirTran, Spirit, Southwest, etc.


25 Post contains images N702ML : For the next month or so, Southwest is giving away free alcohol on all flights leaving DAL. Not sure why they are doing so...but they must have a reA
26 Wjcandee : Uh...no it isn't. Maybe a little more direct than some people are comfortable with, but the fact is that liquor money was getting skimmed in a signif
27 Teva : wow, you are lucky in the States!!! In Europe, it's not Ryanair or Easyjet who are going to serve fre drinks !!! Teva
28 SA7700 : What happened to basic accounting skills? If the value of the stock in the trolley does not match the cash or credit card slips, for beverages consum
29 ScottB : Not really. In the U.S., most, if not all, debit cards can be processed through the credit card networks as well. The banks just prefer to have the c
30 SA7700 : It works like that in South Africa as well. I presume these credit card terminals are portable, otherwise you have yet another problem getting pax to
31 Ha763 : What happens a lot of times is that a pax will order a drink and try to pay with a large bill and the FA will give them the drink and tell the pax tha
32 Ha763 : They are portable, but still have either a keypad or a touch screen to allow the person's PIN to be entered.
33 FlyKev : Hmm right. So Im 17, I have a Solo/Maestro debit card, can I pay? Im assuming not. Kev.
34 Wjcandee : If you're 17, you're not going to be buying an alcoholic beverage anyway. The non-alcoholic beverages are all free, in unlimited quantity.
35 Boeingguy1 : Well, assuming when youre 21, Yes, you can pay... Maestro is the network that MasterCard runs on.
36 Tmarch291 : As some of the other folks mensioned, you don't need a credit card to buy a coke on most US airlines. For the ones that you do, I'm sure that they ac
37 EA CO AS : Actually it's not. I have a friend who WAS (key word, here) a flight attendant for HP, and he routinely boasted of the money he and other flight atte
38 RobTrent : As stated it was my opinion ! I do not like to form stereotype opinions. Regards R
39 Post contains images Lredlefsen : So to put this number in perspective, we're talking 20k drinks worth of revenue (at $5/drink) in one month -- about 650 per day. If AirTran has 200 f
40 Lincoln : - While some say that the limit for a credit card is 18, this can vary-- I knew people in high school who had cards (in their own name) since they we
41 ClearedDirect : I imagine another possibility for the increased revenue from liquor sales is that now you can 'run a tab'. Before you may have been limited by the amo
42 Post contains images Kaneporta1 : I think it's a clever ploy for airlines to save fuel. Instead of passengers carrying all those heavy quarter and dollar coins and FAs carrying change,
43 NASBWI : Which would *probably* explain the "was". $100,000 less over the course of a month of flying is not really that much. Yes, there are some who are cra
44 777STL : The *ONLY* time I ever carry cash is to buy alcohol, on planes and otherwise. I think it's rather amazing that in this day and age, it's taken airline
45 QQflyboy : Tomorrow AA will roll out its new OSR or "Onboard Sales Recorder." The device will be used not only to accept debit and credit cards, but will also ke
46 EA CO AS : Actually, it was his attendance - or lack thereof - that brought the hammer down. Somehow HP's corporate security never caught him. Great guy, really
47 YLWbased : In Hong Kong, Not accepting Hong Kong Dollars is a SERIOUS OFFENCE
48 Rolfen : If anything it shows how much they care about the customer.
49 Pyrex : Actually, it usually works like this: cash is the most expensive form of payment overall. However, as most of the costs are incurred by either the ba
50 N1120A : Not a word In the US, it is not legal. In fact, if a passenger pushed it, they could make a cash purchase in a so-called cashless cabin or demand tha
51 UN_B732 : With UA the age is 14, I believe most are 15. And I happen to know 15 year olds with credit cards, it's possible, but I don't think they'd accept just
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