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Need Help: Chartering An RJ  
User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Hey everyone,

Our rugby team did well enough to qualify this weekend to participate in the national championships in a few weeks. To that end, we're not looking at more than, say, 40-50 people going, so I figured an RJ or small jet would be ideal to at least price out to charter. As it stands right now, getting tickets < 2 weeks in advance is fairly far out of reach of some of the players, so we'd kinda like to pool our resources.

Anyway, I'm not even sure if this kind of arrangement is in the ballpark of, say, 40-50 people paying ~$400 R/T per person (as they would when buying coach tickets), so what is a standard rate to pull something like this off? Any help in terms of places to contact, questions to ask, answers to be prepared to give, etc. would be much appreciated.

Thanks, in advance,
-Mike


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User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

If you have alot of equipment an RJ isnt going to do you much good...

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23148 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

You're looking at about $50,000. See http://www.delta.com/business_progra...rvices/charter_flights/index.jsp#1


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting Av8rPHX (Reply 1):
If you have alot of equipment an RJ isnt going to do you much good...

Hehe...you'd be surprised how little equipment there is.  Smile

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
You're looking at about $50,000. See http://www.delta.com/business_progra...jsp#1

Thanks for the link. Hmm...maybe this won't be an ideal solution after all. :/



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User currently offlineAv8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2521 times:

Depending how far you're going.. chartering a bus might be a better solution...

User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2481 times:
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I'd also check into the airlines group deparments, who offer special rates for groups. Perhaps, since your tight on time, consider splitting off on separate airlines to try and snag any group availability.

JBLU


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

Your better off just doing a group purchase. Here is Delta's link, but I know most carriers do it once you go over 9 seats. Typically you get a discounted rate.

http://www.delta.com/planning_reserv.../plan_flight/group_sales/index.jsp



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User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2468 times:

And Delta is in the US.
You guys aren't in the US, are you? I would contact the regional carriers in your country and find out what they offer. The problem usually is the fact someone has to shuttle a plane in/out, which jacks the pric eup.
-Mr. X



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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2407 times:

Quoting Av8rPHX (Reply 4):
Depending how far you're going.. chartering a bus might be a better solution...

It definitely needs to be a plane: AUS-CAE.

Moreover, I think the relatively few seats to get to CAE will make booking a group this size difficult, although the group rates recommendation is a good one and I'll be sure to follow up on it.

Thanks for the help thus far,
-Mike



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User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5555 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2393 times:

You might try:

http://www.ameristarjet.com/default.asp

They are a top-flight operator.



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User currently offlineCOERJ145 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Try Champion Air. I think they have a 727 configured to 59 seats. Also USA Jet has a DC9 configured for 50.

User currently offlineBlueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4072 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2331 times:
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Quoting COERJ145 (Reply 10):
I think they have a 727 configured to 59 seats. Also USA Jet has a DC9 configured for 50.

These are VIP-configured aircraft. Certainly more expensive than chartering an all-coach RJ from Delta.

Quoting Mikey711MN (Reply 3):
Hmm...maybe this won't be an ideal solution after all. :/

Rather than go straight to an airline or charter yourself, I suggest a broker. For one thing, they can quickly tell you whether your budget is realistic or not, and they can come up with more innovative solutions than you could on your own.

The only broker I have had personal experience with is Air Charter Team, and I was satisfied. You can find plenty of others on Google too.

http://www.aircharterteam.com/

Quoting Mikey711MN (Reply 8):
I think the relatively few seats to get to CAE will make booking a group this size difficult

One thing no one has mentioned yet that a broker can find out for you is if your group might be big enough, and the yield interesting enough, and the fleet scheduling flexible enough, a mainline carrier can substitute a 737 where an RJ would usually fly a scheduled flight so that your entire group can fly in a single group on a regular flight, which would be cheaper than a charter. That's a lot of if's but it does happen.

[Edited 2006-05-01 06:05:36]


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User currently offlineBBJII From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 850 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

If your in Denmark:

Try:Flightline LTD 146's
Titan Airways 146's
VLM Airlines F50
Atlantique Airlines Group ATR 72/42
Cimber Air ATR42's
Malmo Avtn 146's or RJ100's

All do good rates....


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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1400 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Quoting BBJII (Reply 12):
If your in Denmark:

Ahh...now I see where the confusion is coming from [my profile]. No, I live in the US, so I need the plane there.

-Mike



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User currently offlineAogdesk From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 935 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Definitely call a few charter brokers. OR 50 airlines..... Smile

Good luck with transportation and with your next match!


User currently offlineUltrapig From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 588 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2134 times:
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The number one Broker and the only place to call is

http://www.airpartner.com/

I suggest you call the Washington DC office and ask to speak to Gareth-He will st you up with the right people.


User currently offlineMACDADDY From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

or try www.aircharterserviceusa.com

Ask to speak to Dan Rich. Unlike the behomoth that is Air Partner ACS is a more caring and personalised service!

MAC



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