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User currently offlineUtilianPilot07 From Honduras, joined Jun 2004, 96 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Hello,

I was wondering does anyone know if US Airways will see any other types of aircraft coming into MIA. Right now i believe they get 734's some 733's? an occasional A320/319 and that is about it. If i remember correctly they used to have 757's, and at one point an A330? Also what happened to US express? Any information would be appreciated

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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting UtilianPilot07 (Thread starter):
Hello,

I was wondering does anyone know if US Airways will see any other types of aircraft coming into MIA. Right now i believe they get 734's some 733's? an occasional A320/319 and that is about it. If i remember correctly they used to have 757's, and at one point an A330? Also what happened to US express? Any information would be appreciated

I do believe that US would have A320/A319s, and 737s at MIA, but 330s? I don't ever recall that as a possibility, unless it was a diversion. US' 330s go to SJU and MCO in the winter, from PHL or CLT, as a seasonal rotation from international ops. I do believe US Express from MIA has been discontinued. Most of the Bahamas ops were either transferred to FLL in 2003-04, or dropped altogether. I don't remember if US flew 757s from MIA.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3596 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 1):
but 330s

IIRC shortly after we got the 333s they ran from PHL to MIA. It continued on from some international destination from PHL, but there were 333s in MIA. I also believe that it helped get the crews trained quicker, but I could be wrong.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3592 times:

US Airways mostly uses the 737's (-300's and -400's) in MIA, with the occasional A319 on the CLT-MIA route.

757's used to be a pretty regular aircraft for US Airways in MIA, including several going to/from CLT and PIT.

US did use the A330 on PHL-MIA for a short time, when they first received the aircraft, for testing and crew familiarization purposes.

Here's N670UW touching down in MIA in 2000.


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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3582 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 2):
IIRC shortly after we got the 333s they ran from PHL to MIA. It continued on from some international destination from PHL, but there were 333s in MIA. I also believe that it helped get the crews trained quicker, but I could be wrong.

I believe it, as US has flown 330s to Florida during the low season in Europe ever since they had them delivered from Airbus in 1998. 757s may have seen MIA in 1995-97, when US tried putting 757s on Northeast-Florida runs and used 737-300s for transcons like PIT-PDX. It didn't last very long.

MIA used to be a crew base (pilot and F/A) for Piedmont in the mid-80s. USAir picked it up and tried to run with it in the '90s, but pulled out of high-frequency intra-Florida flying by 1996. The aircraft PI used were F28s for the Florida Shuttle, and 737s or 727s for mainline. US added 734s and DC-9s to the mix before the 1996 pulldown.



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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3774 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3571 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 4):
...as US has flown 330s to Florida during the low season in Europe ever since they had them delivered from Airbus in 1998.

US' first A330, N670UW, was delivered in 2000. Some of the A319s & 320s were delivered in 1998.

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User currently offlineRyeFly From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

US Air also flew the 767 between CLT and MIA back in the mid 90's. I flew on the 767 several times back and fourth to MIA from CLT.

I think once US started building up FLL into a focus city they cut back on the larger planes into MIA. I do remember most flights being a 757. Now just about everything US flies into MIA is a 737. They did replace one flight with an A319 recently.

To tell you the truth, I think US is going to upgrade MIA to A321's or 757's as soon as the STAR alliance terminal (J) is complete and they move over to it from Terminal H. Those 737's are always full now, I can't imagine what they will be like once all the STAR carriers are under one roof.


User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3509 times:

Quoting UtilianPilot07 (Thread starter):
I was wondering does anyone know if US Airways will see any other types of aircraft coming into MIA. Right now i believe they get 734's some 733's? an occasional A320/319 and that is about it.

The reason MIA has historically only seen 737s is because MIA was a line maintenance station for US, performing overnight maintenance on 737s. US has also made an effort in general to schedule only Boeing or only Airbus aircraft into a given station, to save on only having to stock one set of parts or ground equipment.

The first of those reasons is no longer applicable, as US recently closed its MIA line maintenance station when it opened one nearby at FLL. While it might have still liked to keep the station as all-737, that consideration is a secondary one; since US is now flying a MIA-LAS flight, it obviously needed to schedule an A319 into MIA for that flight.

Quoting UtilianPilot07 (Thread starter):
If i remember correctly they used to have 757's, and at one point an A330?

While I'm sure US could still fill a 757 at MIA, the sky-high airport costs there dictate that the larger birds are now sent to FLL.

As for the A330s, they were only scheduled into MIA when US first obtained the birds. They did allow US to obtain a good number of connections from high-yielding MIA-Europe traffic, and in particular on US's same-plane MIA-PHL-FCO service, but more importantly the flights were to allow US captains to more quickly obtain A330 flying time, which they needed to operate the birds over the pond using ETOPS.

Quoting UtilianPilot07 (Thread starter):
Also what happened to US express?

US Airways Express left MIA in January 2005 when Air Midwest pulled out of Florida. They had replaced Mesa in mid-2003, who had replaced Piedmont at the beginning of the year. The routes were the same, though, for the last three years or so of the operation, MIA-EYW/TPA/ELH/GHB, though aircraft size and frequency decreased as time went by.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 1):
but 330s? I don't ever recall that as a possibility, unless it was a diversion.

See above.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 1):
US' 330s go to SJU and MCO in the winter, from PHL or CLT, as a seasonal rotation from international ops.

US uses its A330s on a daily, year-round PHL-SJU flight. They do not serve MCO, nor do they serve CLT-SJU. US does send 767s to MCO/SJU/CUN/STT from CLT/PHL during the winter.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 1):
I do believe US Express from MIA has been discontinued. Most of the Bahamas ops were either transferred to FLL in 2003-04, or dropped altogether.

None of the US Airways Express flights at MIA were transferred to FLL. In fact, some of the Express routes at MIA in the last years had been earlier served at FLL before that.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 4):
757s may have seen MIA in 1995-97, when US tried putting 757s on Northeast-Florida runs and used 737-300s for transcons like PIT-PDX.

US used 737s on transcons since, well, since US started flying transcons. It certainly wasn't new to the 1995-97 time period.

US has never flown PIT-PDX.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 7):
US has never flown PIT-PDX.

Actually, A330323X, US did fly PIT-PDX for about a year, 1994-95, with a 757. They pulled out when US decided to fly their 757s on Northeast-Florida runs in late 1995. A 733 was planned to continue the service, but the aircraft was too small for the loads on the flight, so it was axed. Also, US announced PIT-PDX, as well as PHL-PDX would start in late 2001 as part of their new strategic plan in August 2001. Both flights were pulled however, after 9/11 and Airbus delivery cuts.

I appreciate the updates/corrections. I have a sizeable USAir/US Airways schedule collection myself, covering each year from 1986-2001, when they stopped publishing printed timetables. I also have Allegheny timetables from 1973, 1975 and 1978, and an additional USAir schedule from 1983.

How do you get most of your US Airways information? I've always been impressed by the accuracy and information of your posts. I've enjoyed reading them over the last three years.



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User currently offlineKWBL From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

US did , for a short time, fly PDX-PIT in the early to mid 90's. They initially acquired the PDX station with the PSA merger and flew PDX-SEA-PIT. They pulled out and then re-entered the market (I believe summer of 1992 or 1993) and tried the route NS with 737-300. I do not recall ever seeing the 757 (except for when SEA was closed due to the earthquake a few years ago). The service was very short-lived.

User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

Quoting KWBL (Reply 9):
US did , for a short time, fly PDX-PIT in the early to mid 90's. They initially acquired the PDX station with the PSA merger and flew PDX-SEA-PIT. They pulled out and then re-entered the market (I believe summer of 1992 or 1993) and tried the route NS with 737-300. I do not recall ever seeing the 757 (except for when SEA was closed due to the earthquake a few years ago). The service was very short-lived.

They flew in 1994 and 1995. It lasted about 14-15 months. USAir flew into Concourse A with Alaska doing ground handling, I believe. I still have Rand McNally Travel Guide from 1996 (actually covers 1995) that says USAir in Concourse A at PDX. USAir also flew PIT-SJC in 1994 as well.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Thank you guys for helping me out with that. I knew that at one point PIT PDX was a route but I could'nt remember if it stop before if after PDX. For some reason EUG was in the equation in my mind. There were a lot of those one and two stops back in the day out of PIT. Cities like AUS and SAT come to mind and some other PSA west coast cities. I also think SMF and OAK had PIT one stops.

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

The A-330 Flights mentioned above that operated PHL-MIA-PHL where simply shifted to PHL-SJU-PHL. Another reason the 330 operated to MIA was cargo revenue and while it was strong SJU is stronger !

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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 11):
I also think SMF and OAK had PIT one stops.

SMF also had a PIT nonstop in 1991-92. RNO was also a nonstop in 1993. OAK was never served nonstop from PIT.



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User currently offlineJdwfloyd From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 837 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 13):
OAK was never served nonstop from PIT.

OAK was I one stop out of PIT I think, not sure where the first stop was tho. I also like how there was non stop to MEX from PIT, but it always turned into PIT SAT MEX for fuel.


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting Jdwfloyd (Reply 14):
OAK was I one stop out of PIT I think, not sure where the first stop was tho. I also like how there was non stop to MEX from PIT, but it always turned into PIT SAT MEX for fuel.

I remember the MEX-PIT run in 1995, didn't know they had to stop in SAT for fuel though! I believe the OAK stop was in LAX or SAN, but I'm not sure. I'll check through my USAir collection and see what I can come up with.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

LAX and SAN are correct. PIT nonstops to California from 1988-1995 included LAX, SAN, SFO, SMF, SJC and SNA. ONT, PSP, and OAK were never served nonstop from PIT. The other markets that US picked up from PSA were too small to ever conceive PIT or any other Eastern city nonstop service, although UA had a ORD-SBA run in 1986 that ran for about four months that ended as a tag-on to PSP.


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