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AS Changes Barrow, Prudhoe Schedules  
User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

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Barrow mail change prompts new Alaska Airlines schedule

By Rob Stapleton
Alaska Journal of Commerce

Alaska Airlines announced April 24 a new flight schedule connecting the destinations of Fairbanks, Barrow and Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay.

The new schedule will reduce the total number of daily flights routed in the region from three to two. However, the two daily flights will operate year-round and stop more frequently in both Barrow and Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay during each route, resulting in more arrivals and departures for both North Slope destinations.

Weekly departures will increase from 12 to 14 in Barrow and from six to 14 in Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay. The new schedule continues to allow passengers to take day trips to Barrow from both Anchorage and Fairbanks, and creates a new option for day trips to Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay from Fairbanks.

The proposal by the U.S. Postal Service that triggered Alaska to modify route will change the bypass mail system to Barrow. Mail will no longer be flown from Fairbanks to Barrow, but rather will be trucked from Fairbanks to Deadhorse. The postal service needs carriers to fly from Deadhorse to Barrow to take the bypass mail originally trucked from Fairbanks. According to postal service officials, Lynden Transport, which is an incumbent vendor for the postal service, will truck the bypass mail.

The postal service had asked bypass carriers Alaska Airlines, Everts Air Cargo and Northern Air Cargo to submit their route schedules by April 24.

Despite the schedule changes by the airlines, postal service bypass mail specialist Steve Deaton said that no decision has been made on the proposed bypass mail change, and that the communities affected would be notified 30 days prior to the change.

"Despite strong concerns with the change in the bypass mail program, we are committed to serving Barrow and Prudhoe Bay with the most comprehensive schedule we can, while keeping prices consistent with previous levels," said Bill MacKay, Alaska Airlines' senior vice president of the Alaska region in a press release. "The revised schedule reflects the deep commitment we have to serving these Arctic communities."

Officials with Alaska Airlines air cargo division could not be reached for comment about schedule changes or freight pricing changes due to the new passenger schedule.


GO ROCKETS
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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

What's the new schedule?

I can only guess they're going to milkrun the flight ANC-FAI-SCC-BRW-SCC-FAI-ANC. The only way to increase the flights at SCC from 6 to 14 . . . no need to come up here twice a day from ANC as they do now . . . so this makes sense.

Are they going to continue to use the 732?

Currently, AS pops in to SCC about 1pm. If they fly . . . they tend to cancel pretty often in the winter . . .


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

A little research . . . .

You will, apparently, have to go to BRW to get to SCC . . . I picked July 6 and request ANC-SCC . . .

I was given three options. All three took me to BRW for a change of plane then on to SCC. AS143 to BRW then AS 144 to SCC.

I changed the date to July 7. And the result was the same. No matter how you slice it, you now have to go through BRW to get to SCC.

I can envision some disasterous air travel on AS for that. Apparently, no one happened to think about the weather up here . . . it can be clear in BRW and completely trashed at SCC, and visa versa. I don't think a lot of folk are going to be pleased with this. What's going to happen when you hop the plane from ANC and get to BRW and now the weather has gone to hell at SCC? Guess you get to go back to FAI after overflying SCC? Who will pay for that? What happens the next day when perhaps the weather has cleared in SCC? Will AS accomodate the pax on the flight to BRW and then to SCC?

No more ANC-SCC non-stops. No more ANC-FAI-SCC. Now, only ANC-FAI-BRW/BRW-SCC.

Untenable.

Guess I'll have to hope Frontier Flying doesn't screw up their SCC schedule as AS has . . . .


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Guess I'll have to hope Frontier Flying doesn't screw up their SCC schedule as AS has . . . .

After reading this:

Quoting Chugach (Thread starter):
"Despite strong concerns with the change in the bypass mail program, we are committed to serving Barrow and Prudhoe Bay with the most comprehensive schedule we can, while keeping prices consistent with previous levels,"

It appears this wasn't the first choice of those at AS as well, no?


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Gunsontheroof needs to hit a milkrun before the 732 combis are gone...


Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 4):
Gunsontheroof needs to hit a milkrun before the 732 combis are gone...

Unfortunately, catching a 732 on the traditional milk run just doesn't happen anymore. Only 732's that end up in SEA any more are freighter flights. Kinda sad. It will be cool when the 734 combi's/ freighter(s) are chugging along.


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1923 times:

Quoting SupraZachAir (Reply 5):
Only 732's that end up in SEA any more are freighter flights.

One of them flew over my buddy's house in Greenwood (north Seattle) less than a week ago when we were shooting the shit on the porch...I'll miss planes that make noise.



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting SupraZachAir (Reply 5):
catching a 732 on the traditional milk run just doesn't happen anymore

Not quite . . . AS 143 and AS144 are B732s, the combis . . .

And they will, according to www.alaskaairlines.com be the planes operating this new schedule from ANC-FAI-BRW/BRW-SCC-FAI-ANC. Now there's a milkrun. Not quite the infamous ANC-CDV-YAK-JNU or JNU-SIT-KTN-SEA . . . but close enough.

If I'm not mistaken, Guns, you can also get a 732 on ANC-OTZ-OME-ANC still. Better get up here quick tho . . . . I'll buy the beer.


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3505 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 7):

If I'm not mistaken, Guns, you can also get a 732 on ANC-OTZ-OME-ANC still. Better get up here quick tho . . . . I'll buy the beer.

I'll do my best to get up there before they go to the desert, but 732 or not, I'm holding you to the beer when I get to Alaska!



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Quoting SupraZachAir (Reply 5):
Only 732's that end up in SEA any more are freighter flights.

I am booked on AS61 SEA-JNU on 23June2006 and it is shown as a 732.

Tod


User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting Tod (Reply 9):
I am booked on AS61 SEA-JNU on 23June2006 and it is shown as a 732.

That flight was supposed to be operated by a converted 737-400 combi
on the summer schedule, but the delivery date has moved out,
so it is likely that you will indeed fly on a 732.



First, benzene in my Perrier, and now this!
User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1786 times:

Quoting HikesWithEyes (Reply 10):
Quoting Tod (Reply 9):
I am booked on AS61 SEA-JNU on 23June2006 and it is shown as a 732.

That flight was supposed to be operated by a converted 737-400 combi
on the summer schedule, but the delivery date has moved out,
so it is likely that you will indeed fly on a 732.

It was listed as a 732Q with only the aft seating available online, the yesterday it changed to just a 732 with the whole plane Y class pax.
I would guess that it's the same plane, just without the partition.

Tod


User currently offlineHikesWithEyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 816 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1781 times:

You are correct...it will probably be a 737-200 in an all seat configuration
of 111 pax.
The original plan was to have a 4 pallet/70 pax seat converted 737-400
on that flight, but the aircraft won't be ready in time for the start
of the summer schedule.



First, benzene in my Perrier, and now this!
User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting HikesWithEyes (Reply 12):
The original plan was to have a 4 pallet/70 pax seat converted 737-400
on that flight, but the aircraft won't be ready in time for the start
of the summer schedule.

What's wrong, folks at Dothan as slow as the folks at Mobile?  duck 


Tod  Wink


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1742 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
What's the new schedule?

The only thing I don't get is this...the mail needs to be flown from Prudhoe to Barrow....yet there is no flight scheduled from Prudhoe to Barrow on this schedule! Only from Barrow to Prudhoe, which kind of negates the point of trying to fly it the other way.

Methinks this new schedule isn't totally finalized. Or, somebody in the AS scheduling department had a brain fart of epic proportions. For starters, you if you "change" planes in Barrow, you have no choice but to leave security. Secondly, I say "change" because it's the same aircraft, different flight number.

This just doesn't add up to me.



GO ROCKETS
User currently offlineSupraZachAir From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1695 times:

I was talking about the "infamous" milk run through SE Alaska (CDV, YAK, SIT, JNU, PSG, KTN, WRG), but you can definitely catch a 73M regurlarly to AKN-ADK, ADQ, BET, DLG, and of course FAI-BRW-SCC (or however they're gonna route it).

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 14):


Methinks this new schedule isn't totally finalized. Or, somebody in the AS scheduling department had a brain fart of epic proportions. . . . . . . .
This just doesn't add up to me.

I quite agree. Sure is going to put a cramp in some transportation up here at SCC. Who in their right mind wants to go from ANC-FAI, change planes, go from FAI-BRW, sit there (same plane, but it's called a change of plane), then BRW-SCC . . . and hope that either SCC or BRW isn't dealing with WX, which . . . for anyone with any sense will know . . . . happens more than regularly up here. BRW is closed, or SCC is closed, or both.

I hope this is a preliminary schedule by AS, or I can see many folks doing like I will do . . . I'd rather hop on Frontier Flying's B1900 for the ride north or south than screw around with AS and this bizarre routing.  irked 


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