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Why No LPL - LON Flights?  
User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

i am aware of LPL-LCY but what about EZY LPL-LGW or slots permitting LPL-LHR with bmi for connections . i know MAN is nearby but lpl is a big city too.

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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24932 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Like you said VLM operate LPL-LCY flights, but you may not be aware that pax numbers on flights between MAN and London have greatly decreased thanks to improvements on the rail network.
Virgin Trains now carries 2/3 of people going between Manchester and London.
I understand Virgin also have quite a number of trains between Liverpool and London as well, which may be scarin the likes of BD and BA from trying LPL-LHR. Thus BA/BD will use their LHR slots for more lucrative routes such as MME and LBA  duck 



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User currently offlineBilly From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 895 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

LPL-LTN EZY flights were operated, attracting big volumes. Unfortunately the average yield was £17/sector - hardly enough to support the operation.

User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2970 times:

how can LBA and MME be lucrative both have good train links GNER from leeds and darlington . in the future i can imagine only embraers doing the LHR-MAN runs only for connections!

User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24932 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2945 times:

Quoting Ba757gla (Reply 3):
how can LBA and MME be lucrative both have good train links GNER from leeds and darlington

Well I understand BMI on the MME-LHR are getting thumped by GNER and BA from NCL-LHR since they switched the timings on MME-LHR. Although I believe the BMI Baby MME-LGW flight is doing very well.



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User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6705 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

A long time ago British Midland (now BMI) used to fly a DC9 from LPL-LHR, but dropped it due to poor loads, I presume.

Why none now? Rail connections and for transit pax maybe MAN is a better alternative.



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
Virgin Trains now carries 2/3 of people going between Manchester and London.
I understand Virgin also have quite a number of trains between Liverpool and London as well, which may be scarin the likes of BD and BA from trying LPL-LHR. Thus BA/BD will use their LHR slots for more lucrative routes such as MME and LBA

Re Virgin. In either 2007 or 2008 Virgin will increase the London-Manchester train service to every 20 minutes. Lverpool-London will remain hourly but will be speeded up, only stopping at Runcorn



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User currently offlineRdwootty From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 902 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2721 times:

Just a note on this route Starways and then Brisitsh Eagle operated a Viscount from Liverpool via Chester!! to LHR in the 60's .But even then it was mostly interline traffic

User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

Maybe a weekday morning/afternoon only LPL-LGW-LPL would make any sense now. Travel by train is more attractive between Liverpool and London except probably for LGW and areas south of LGW.


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