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Dubai Moves Forward New Airport Plans  
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8718 times:
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Now it seems to be official that Emirates will also move to the new Dubai World Central International Airport. Thus, the new airport is no longer regarded as the second airport for Dubai. (Keep in mind the massive expansion projects still taking place at the current airport.)

The 33bn USD project will be brought forward by several years, opening in late 2007.

It will be able to handle 120 million passengers and 12 million tonnes of cargo per year, with six parallel runways.


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8682 times:

Wow! I quite like the current DXB airport. What will they do with it once the new one opens?

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12045 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8675 times:
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Quoting Fly-K (Thread starter):
opening in late 2007

This I find a little hard to believe. Has any work already started? I know Dubai is a place like no other, but to have an international airport up and running from scratch in 18 months seems somewhat extraordinary.

I have to confess I'm basing my position on how long it has taken to build a still-not-finished Terminal 5 at Heathrow.



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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8669 times:
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It won't be operational with the full capacity in the first phase, but at least one runway and basic infrastructure will be in place. Groundworks have already started (saw it myself)


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12045 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 8580 times:
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Will be interesting to see how EK handles the migration to Jebel Ali. How far apart are the two airports? I can see problems if pax have to switch airports to connect - the traffic in Dubai can be a real nightmare.


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User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8486 times:

Okay as far as I know, the new airport in Jebel Ali will only be open to Cargo in the short term. At the time Emirates starts operating out of it, which most probably will be around 2009 or 2010, there will be a VERY FAST Tube or Metro Connection between the 2 airports. So it will take you only 12-15 minutes to commute between the 2 airports!!! Wooohooooo

So I guess traffic is of NO EFFECT for Emirates.

Cheers
EK156


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5093 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8469 times:

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 2):
This I find a little hard to believe. Has any work already started? I know Dubai is a place like no other, but to have an international airport up and running from scratch in 18 months seems somewhat extraordinary.

Cmon, your basing it off a building project in the UK, which is notorious for delays!

Bearing in mind in Dubai they will work 24/7 on the project, and there is a HELL of a lot less paperwork to be completed, then 18 months seems reasonable.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4775 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8397 times:

what is going to happen to the old airport? Is it not currently being expanded as we speak? Seems a bit of a waste if its going to be replaced by this new mega airport... or will the old airport be used for budget LCC's?


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User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8373 times:

Can anyone provide a link to a master plan or diagram for the new Jebel Ali International Airport? I did a quick google, but didn't come up with anything. I'm really interested in the layout.


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User currently offlineNikeshashar From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8335 times:

found this on google images

http://www.aspelund.org/images/dfs/1.jpg


User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8274 times:

Quoting Nikeshashar (Reply 9):
found this on google images

Thanks for the link. It kinda reminds me of ATL, only a whole lot bigger!



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User currently offlineIcelandairMSP From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8154 times:

The Jebel Ali airport will, in the short term, be a cargo airport to allow more slots and facilities at DXB to be devoted to civil aviation, which, if it continues to grow as it has and as the Dubai Emirate says it will, eventually the new passenger airport would become necessary. The project, however, is not be constructed in one fell swoop like most other behemoth Dubai projects; it will take some time before DXB is too busy and so phasing is spread out over twenty some years I believe. If every project in Dubai is built and population, business, and tourism continue to grow as they have been, it might not be so inconcievable to see the huge passenger airport come to fruition. Everybody thought all the huge Dubai Palm projects and hundreds of high-rises were worth a few eye-rolls three, even two years ago and barely any of those haven't made substantial steps toward construction. There's no reason to believe they aren't serious about this one either.

Besides, with so much desert of almost no value to build on and a (very sadly underpaid and exploited) cheap labor force, projects like this don't cost what they would in the UK or US. Environmental Impact Studies are non-existant, land acquisition is already in the hands of the Emirate, and other huge obstacles like noise barriers and community/regional input that add years to major planning processes also markdown development costs and get projects moving forward in little time at all. Hopefully Dubai will start performing at least some preliminary EIS for their new projects. The amount of air, water, and desert pollution mounting in Dubai is revolting.


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8131 times:
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Very well said IcelandairMSP !


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User currently offlineMetti From Luxembourg, joined Jan 2006, 64 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7973 times:

Fly-K, have you red a statement somewhere that EK are going to move to Jebel Ali?

User currently offlineAri From UK - England, joined May 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7945 times:

Do Etihad only operate out of Abu Dhabi?!
If they expand large enough could they not accomodate spaces at either DXB or the new Jebel Ali?!

aRi


User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7919 times:

Quoting Ari (Reply 14):
Do Etihad only operate out of Abu Dhabi?!
If they expand large enough could they not accomodate spaces at either DXB or the new Jebel Ali?!

aRi

That will never happen. Abu Dhabi is already building a new airport to accomodate Etihad. Besides Jebel Ali Airport is going to be only 30 minutes by car to Abu Dhabi Airport.


User currently offlineFlyBaby From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 7888 times:

Quoting IcelandairMSP (Reply 11):
Besides, with so much desert of almost no value to build on and a (very sadly underpaid and exploited) cheap labor force, projects like this don't cost what they would in the UK or US. Environmental Impact Studies are non-existant, land acquisition is already in the hands of the Emirate, and other huge obstacles like noise barriers and community/regional input that add years to major planning processes also markdown development costs and get projects moving forward in little time at all.

Oh, and you forgot also having an endless supply of petrodollars @ $75/barrel. That helps a little too  wink .


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3140 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7751 times:
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Quoting Metti (Reply 13):
have you red a statement somewhere that EK are going to move to Jebel Ali?

Yes, it was in the Air Transport Intelligence articl.e



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User currently offlineEK380 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7576 times:

Quoting Fly-K (Thread starter):
opening in late 2007.

I dont think that is going to happen. The new terminal for EK at DXB is set to open in spring 07.

What I think is going to happen by late 2007 is the opening of the cargo part of the airport.


User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7491 times:

http://www.sme.sk/cdata/2475878/20051121015_Dubai_big.jpg

REPORT - ATM Thursday, May 04, 2006 - DUBAI:

Quote:

Dubai World Central International Airport:

This new facility will be 10 times the size of the current Dubai International Airport and Dubai Cargo Village combined. Its passenger capacity of over 120 million passengers a year can be judged in context alongside the world’s busiest airport Atlanta which in 2004, for which the latest figures are available, handled 83.5 million passengers.

The airport will have six parallel runways all of 4.5 kilometres in length and separated by a minimum of 800 metres and a 92 metre high control tower – the highest in the Middle East – the ’flower concept’ icon design of which will create an aviation landmark for the region. The control tower will be fully equipped with the latest in avionics and navigational aids. Control tower construction will begin in October this year.

There will be two luxurious terminals - the first dedicated to the services of airlines within the Emirates Group, the second catering to other regional and international carriers. A third, highly functional terminal is earmarked for low cost charter airlines. Dedicated facilities are earmarked for executive jet operators.

The airport will also boast hotels and shopping malls, support facilities and state-of-the-art maintenance facilities which will create a regional maintenance hub capable of A, B and C checks on all aircraft, including the A380.

JXB will be linked to the existing, award-winning Dubai International Airport (DXB) via an express rail system and ultimately will be serviced by the Dubai Light Railway Network (Dubai Metro). Some 100,000 car parking spaces will be available for airport parking and car rental services.

They discuss it at length on this forum: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=167888&page=15&pp=20


User currently offlineNikeshashar From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 7404 times:

Quoting FlyBaby (Reply 16):
Oh, and you forgot also having an endless supply of petrodollars @ $75/barrel. That helps a little too

you do know that 90% of all business generated in the Emirate of Dubai is NON-Oil related. Thats from the WTO Report.


User currently offlineFlyBaby From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 7326 times:

Quoting Nikeshashar (Reply 20):
you do know that 90% of all business generated in the Emirate of Dubai is NON-Oil related. Thats from the WTO Report.

CIA estimated that 30% of the UAE's GDP comes from oil and gas, and that estimate was based at oil around $60/barrel. Today, it probably closer to 40% of GDP. That's very significant... a third of the economy.


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