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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6493 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

Now that Song has been integrated into Delta's fleet, when will the Song aircraft get First Class seats, and when will the PTVs be added to other aircraft?

I have heard that after the 757s, the 737-800s will get PTVs, and then will be the domestic 767-300s. I really hope the 767-400ERs get PTVs.

Also, will the Song leather seat covers be kept or will they be switched to the dark blue on Delta's aircraft?


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

PTV's will be added to the rest of the fleet by 2008(2 years). Actually, it will be added to all 757's, 738's, and most likely all 767's. The only birds that probably would not get them are the MD-88's and MD-90's, as they are usually short haul birds(although DL loves to send them on near cross country ATL-TUS runs). And the MD-90's already have the nice overhead flip down screens, so I don't see it being very economical to add them on a fleet of 16.

The Song aircraft should be finished of the conversions by the end of the year. By that time, they should be painted, new seat covers installed, and First Class. I would think they could get 48 done in 7 months.


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3011 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 1):
Actually, it will be added to all 757's, 738's, and most likely all 767's.

I'm assuming this doesn't include the 764s the will be converted for int'l?



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User currently offlineUAL747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2993 times:

I flew Delta ATL-EZE and SCL-ATL in March and both 767's had dated interiors with no PTV's. They really need to upgrade their cabin interiors and IFE systems.

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User currently onlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Will the 757 FC PTV's be located similar to the 764's in between the seats or will they be installed in the headrests? Also what about row 19 in Y how will they do those PTV's on the 757's?


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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

Are they using B6 LiveTV technology, a hybrid, or what?

User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 2874 times:
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I would assume they will be using the same technology used on the existing 48 Song 757s across the rest of the fleet (it's known to them, well tested, and provides fleet commonality w/the existing Song planes).

- litz


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 2858 times:

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 4):
Also what about row 19 in Y how will they do those PTV's on the 757's?

I'm assuming that they're going to renumber the seats on the 757s that will be converted to "song style". In that case 19 would be the equivalent of what row 9 is now. The PTVs are between the seats.



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User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day ago) and read 2833 times:

I understand these installatins will begin very soon. As bad as DL needs this, I think this is a waste of cash. IMO.

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4898 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 2724 times:
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Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 2):
I'm assuming this doesn't include the 764s the will be converted for int'l?

In a previous thread (too lazy to look it up), it was mentioned that the 764s will get them (they are already wired for them in Y). The only doubts are with the 763ERs due to weight/cost issues, which they are currently studying...


User currently offlineEvan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 8):
I understand these installatins will begin very soon. As bad as DL needs this, I think this is a waste of cash. IMO.

You need to SPEND money to MAKE money.

If you want to keep the old interiors and keep a bunch of cash but lose thousands of customers to competitors and eventually lose that cash that you saved, then there has to be something wrong with you. On the other hand, if you spend the money that you hardly have any of and provide great service and comfort and attract thousands of customers to your airline, you will eventually gain back the money and have high revenue. Which would you choose?

Take JetBlue for example..



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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 2):
I'm assuming this doesn't include the 764s the will be converted for int'l?

I believe those will be some of the first ones and will get them as the planes are being converted for Intl. with BusinessElite.


User currently offlineAvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 10):
If you want to keep the old interiors and keep a bunch of cash but lose thousands of customers to competitors and eventually lose that cash that you saved, then there has to be something wrong with you. On the other hand, if you spend the money that you hardly have any of and provide great service and comfort and attract thousands of customers to your airline, you will eventually gain back the money and have high revenue. Which would you choose?

I agree this needs to be done; however, with the uncertainty of future fuel cost this should be a project approached carefully while watching cash flow. DL issued RFP for the conversion of the SOng aircraft and DL TOC had the lowest bid. Yet DL had serious cost over runs to the tune of +$200k/ac. Should they take the same approach this will waste much needed cash.

DL will need more than PTV to return the loyal customer baseit once had. I do agree this is a great start, again cash is important.


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting DeltaGuy (Reply 11):
Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 2):
I'm assuming this doesn't include the 764s the will be converted for int'l?

I believe those will be some of the first ones and will get them as the planes are being converted for Intl. with BusinessElite.

I was reffering to the song style PTVs with sattelite TV. Since those planes are going int'l, they can't even have sattelite TV, right?



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
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Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 7):
I'm assuming that they're going to renumber the seats on the 757s that will be converted to "song style". In that case 19 would be the equivalent of what row 9 is now. The PTVs are between the seats.

Anyone know if they will be removing the two seats that are now row "9" and re-installing the bulkhead there?

Normally, row 20 is the first row on the left side (and it's a bulkhead), and row 19 on the right, which is open to the doorway area.

- litz


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2247 times:

From what I've heard they will not be reinstalling the bulkhead.
On a regular DL 757 there is a galley in the middle, right?



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