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Is DL Planning A Partnership With AA?  
User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1762 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3747 times:
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Had to go to OKC tonight for work, the travel office booked me out on DL and back on AA.

Checking in online for DL, my Itinerary was rather surprising :

http://terminus.litz.org/dl-aa.jpg

American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

I've had mixed flights before (DL and AA in fact) and never seen this before ...

All I can say, is if this is true, and eventually we get full codeshare and FF benefits sharing, I'm going to be real, real, happy - that's two networks where travelers on each side will benefit greatly.

(if this actually is true, and isn't just a lark of the TechOps programming dept)

- litz

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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3699 times:

Litz:

Very curious. It certainly doesn't show up in the Host that way... AA is AA and if you ask for DL flights, AA as a code share do not come up.

And when I went to the DL website, the AA flights you are book on did not appear.

Haven't heard anything at the water coolers about this....!



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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4049 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting Litz (Thread starter):
American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

I've had mixed flights before (DL and AA in fact) and never seen this before ...

All I can say, is if this is true, and eventually we get full codeshare and FF benefits sharing, I'm going to be real, real, happy - that's two networks where travelers on each side will benefit greatly.

I'll take a SkyTeam/OneWorld partnership so long as it means utter and complete Jihad against WN!!!! Same deal if it were SkyTeam/Star Alliance such as DL/AC since WN is the enemy of all civilized carriers!



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User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 2):
I'll take a SkyTeam/OneWorld partnership so long as it means utter and complete Jihad against WN!!!! Same deal if it were SkyTeam/Star Alliance such as DL/AC since WN is the enemy of all civilized carriers!

DING - What does this have to do with the topic at hand?



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User currently offlinePSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

The only partnership I know of involving AA and DL is the one
out of LAX with American Eagle, which also code-shares on these
flights with CO, NW, AS, QF, and I think Cathay Pacific, too



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User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2088 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

I think the "operated by Delta partner" line must refer to the interline agreement (and E ticket agreement) DL has with AA and virtually every other airline. I'm sure it's not partner in the sense of CO, NW, AF, etc. Still, it is a bit confusing I'll admit.

User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3413 times:
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Quite so -- I've never had a cross-ticketed itinerary appear like this before ... from the other side, the AA end of things also lists the Delta flight.

The DL people at Hartsfield had no idea what was going on, and my flight itinerary, upon checkin @ the kiosk, did NOT list the AA flights.

Neither airlines webpage allows you to choose seats on the other carrier's flights, however. I really have no idea what's going on here, unless we're just seeing examples of increased computer interopability or something.

Or maybe this is a nascent deal in the works, dunno.

- litz


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3141 times:
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Any deal in the works would most likely leak to the press (at least a little bit) far before schedules are loaded, especially considering that a codeshare deal would likely trigger Federal reviews and limitations. When DL/CO/NW started their codeshare, it was extensively reviewed and there are caps on the number of flights allowed per day.

I think what you saw was a good old-fashioned bug.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3019 times:

DL and AA wouldn't be given the time of day by the DOJ. They tried to merge their CRSs at one time and even that was shot down. AA and DL have WAY too much overlap on the east coast (both are in top 3 carriers in many markets) as well as to Latin America and Europe.

I'm going w/ the bug theory too. Maybe, DL thinks it can acquire anyone, though.  Smile


User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2898 times:

United Air Lines Inc 2294* First (V) Confirmed Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 5:50pm
26 May 2006 Tampa, FL (TPA) 8:44pm
26 May 2006
* Operated by Delta

the same thing happend to me...

regards: Markus



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User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

United Air Lines Inc 2294* First (V) Confirmed Philadelphia, PA (PHL) 5:50pm
26 May 2006 Tampa, FL (TPA) 8:44pm
26 May 2006
* Operated by Delta Partner

sorry i have missed the partner..

DALelite



They loved to fly and it showed..
User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

I believe this is a ticketing ploy by (insert travel agency here) in an effort to not scare away passengers. For instance, your typical Joe passenger hates knowing that he will fly MIA-IAD on UA and then IAD-PHL on US and PHL-LAS on HP and LAS-SEA on AS. Its more likely the bags would get lost and if one carrier has a weather delay or what not, that carrier can say, "Its your problem" for your connecting flights on other airliners.

So, if you have the flight booked and see a DL flight and then another flight, although on AA, you can put in parenthesis that its a Delta partner, and it suddenly makes it alright with everyone. And you really wouldn't be lying either if you were the travel agency, since both carriers have interline agreements with each other and could be considered "partners."


User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1762 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2682 times:
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Except this wasn't from a travel agency (although it was booked through my employer's corporate travel office) - the picture linked above is direct from DL's website, showing the outbound DL flight, and AA returns.

- litz


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting Litz (Thread starter):
American Airlines, a Delta Partner ?!? ?!?

You may accrue Skymiles for AA domestic segments. But that's as far as the cooperation goes.



Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2088 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 13):
You may accrue Skymiles for AA domestic segments. But that's as far as the cooperation goes.

As far as I know you would not get Skymiles for the AA flights listed on your itinerary as those AA flights are not codeshare fligts with DL. Only DL codeshare flights with AA Eagle would accrue Skymiles.


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

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Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 14):
As far as I know you would not get Skymiles for the AA flights listed on your itinerary as those AA flights are not codeshare fligts with DL. Only DL codeshare flights with AA Eagle would accrue Skymiles.

Nope. All domestic AA flights are valid for accrual of Skymiles.

It's not advertised at all, but it's a fact.

Call the Skymiles desk and ask.


edit....now i'm not sure. we used to have an agreement with AA. i think it's still in effect, but i can't find any info on it.

[Edited 2006-05-06 08:06:20]


Tired of airline bankruptcies....EA/PA/TW and finally DL.
User currently offlineDL Widget Head From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2088 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 15):
Nope. All domestic AA flights are valid for accrual of Skymiles.

It's not advertised at all, but it's a fact.

Call the Skymiles desk and ask.

I just checked the DL website. There is no FF agreement in place with AA other than the AA Eagle flights that DL puts their code on.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 16):
I just checked the DL website. There is no FF agreement in place with AA other than the AA Eagle flights that DL puts their code on.

Still, it does seem strange. It reminds me of the time DL labeled the airport code SJO on their website as Helsinki, Finland.  Confused I still have the screenshot of that typo somewhere.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

My vote is in the "bug"/interline category... Looks like someone decided that "If 2 letter airline code is not 'DL' then display 'Delta Partner' message"

Lincoln



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