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My Free Ticket Secret: Get On DEN-ORD-DEN 777s  
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 8064 times:

I don't have any inside track...or know anybody who can pull strings for me...I'm just an average flyer who has found an interesting "shortfall," if you will, in the UA system. Why share? Well, why not?!

I fly DEN-ORD and ORD-DEN on the 777 flights pretty regularly. Simply put, these flights are packed everytime.Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well. Last week, they overbooked the 777 DEN-ORD flight by 27 pax. On the 3rd call for somebody to give up their seat, I lit my FA call button (not believing they were already on their 3rd call for free ticket volunteers)...I was in no hurry, so why not let somebody else on-board who is. I gave up my seat, got a free ticket, got upgraded to 1st class (DEN-ORD-IAD) and called it a day.

This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

And, yes, these 777 flights are followed closely by an additional flight on the same route by five minutes or so...usually a 737 or an A320/19.

Mileage to get tickets? Hah! Not for me.


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User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8000 times:

Sounds like a good deal to me. Whenever I'm on a T7 route with my friends at UA its about 99%, so there's never an oversold opportunity. Now on US with all RJ flights, now we're talking a good deal (when it comes to oversolds).

User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20355 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 8000 times:

This would make a good entry at: http://bumptracker.com/


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User currently offlineProvance From Ireland, joined May 2006, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7983 times:

wow, that a really nice reward from UA, for your generosity


EI, FR, BD, RE, UA, XL, US,
User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7829 times:

I have always wondered if you can volunteer again to give up your seat for a free ticket when you are using your free-ticket voucher from the last trip. If so, it would be possible for someone to only ever pay for one ticket and keep flying free from then on (assuming you always fly overbooked routes).

User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7738 times:

You're right! I fly this route all the time and they are always packed. Last week I was sitting in first and they upgraded an economy passenger to F (double upgrade!). He didn't even know until he was on the plane and was soooo excited. The 777 flights (3-4 daily) are usually heavily overbooked during the end of the week and weekends, but during Mon, Tues, Wed they are pretty light in business class but almost always overflowing in back. The other night there were 54 standbys listed for my DEN-ORD flight (including me). I made it on as a BP5C, but I know that most were left behind.

I'm not eligible for DBC/VDB compenstation when I fly UA, but on this route there have been several times when I wish I were.

[Edited 2006-05-05 19:13:33]

User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4375 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Sounds like a good opportunity and strategy for your needs!

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one. If thats the case, the domestic 777 actually has one more seat than the 744.



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User currently offlineLHUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7691 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one. If thats the case, the domestic 777 actually has one more seat than the 744

Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin. I always try to fly them every time I go out.


User currently offlineGeorgiaAME From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 953 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7646 times:

If you have a mean streak: Delta Fort Lauderdale to Atlanta late Friday nights.
That flight has bought me many years of Crown Room Membership.



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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7560 times:

Quoting JpetekYXMD80 (Reply 6):
Just one thing, i'm assuming the route is on a domestic 777 and not an international one.



Quoting LHUSA (Reply 7):
Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin.

LHUSA is correct. As far as I can remember, all of my T7 flights between DEN and ORD have been 3-cabins. (Not to say there aren't any 2-class T7s on DEN-ORD or ORD-DEN routes, I just haven't been on any)Actually, the only time I can recall being on a 2-class T7 was from IAD to DEN (about a year after UA started flying T7s).

[Edited 2006-05-05 19:53:23]


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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7367 times:

Quoting Junction (Reply 4):
I have always wondered if you can volunteer again to give up your seat for a free ticket when you are using your free-ticket voucher from the last trip. If so, it would be possible for someone to only ever pay for one ticket and keep flying free from then on (assuming you always fly overbooked routes).

I have done this several times. Back in 95-97 when my wife and I moved to LIM and flew regularly on AA to SFO to visit her mom, we would get bumped on the MIA-LIM portion, they would give us vouchers, we would purchase the next ticket with vouchers, and would then get bumped again and received more vouchers. We did this for two years solid, every two months. I estimate that we were probably given a total of 15,000 dollars. And yes, since this was treated as "cash" by AA we also earned ff miles regularly. One time, we had so many vouchers collected that we went to Miami to spend Easter weekend with our daughter, a four day trip just because.
These days, there is a lot more supply so the demand isn't has high. I haven't been bumped in years.
FLY2LIM



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User currently offlineAirplanekid101 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6988 times:

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
I don't have any inside track...or know anybody who can pull strings for me...I'm just an average flyer who has found an interesting "shortfall," if you will, in the UA system. Why share? Well, why not?!

I fly DEN-ORD and ORD-DEN on the 777 flights pretty regularly. Simply put, these flights are packed everytime.Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well. Last week, they overbooked the 777 DEN-ORD flight by 27 pax. On the 3rd call for somebody to give up their seat, I lit my FA call button (not believing they were already on their 3rd call for free ticket volunteers)...I was in no hurry, so why not let somebody else on-board who is. I gave up my seat, got a free ticket, got upgraded to 1st class (DEN-ORD-IAD) and called it a day.

This happens so often, I can't believe UA doesn't have the 744 back on this route. To me, it is almost a guaranteed free ticket each time, if I choose it to be.

And, yes, these 777 flights are followed closely by an additional flight on the same route by five minutes or so...usually a 737 or an A320/19.

that is my kind of way do do things!

NICK  bouncy   bouncy   bouncy 



Nick K. Appleton, Wisconsin KATW
User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6911 times:

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 7):
Actually, most of the 777 flights between ORD and DEN are 3 cabin. I always try to fly them every time I go out.

Interesting, I've only been on one of these flights once, and it was 2 class (and full). But the truly sad part was that, as someone who is not elite, this was one of the extremely few times I have gotten upgraded. Missed out!  banghead 



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User currently offlineIDAWA From Italy, joined Aug 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6447 times:

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
Over the past few months, I've simply given-up my seats and flown on a different flights to my ultimate destinations. UA gives me a free RT ticket and sometimes upgrades me to 1st class as well.

Does it mean that UA flies you to your destination on a later flight AND gives you a free ticket for another round trip? That would be awedome...

I-DAWA



Flown on: 319, 320, 321, 340, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, DC9, D10, M11, M80, 146, EM2, BEH, CRJ, DH8, L4T.
User currently offlineBN747DFWHNL From United States of America, joined May 2005, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

My free ticket advice: fly to Florida over spring break. In late March I picked up one free ticket on US, returning to DEN from a connection in CLT, and, had my schedule been even more flexible, I could have picked up two more free tickets, just on that one roundtrip!

On the outbound DEN to CLT flight, they were asking for volunteers, but I couldn't do it. I picked up the free ticket on the way back to DEN, but, while boarding the later flight I had been moved to (layover was 5 hours; it was too long), they asked for volunteers yet again. They were so booked (it was
Saturday) that they were going to put you up in a hotel and give you a first class seat on Monday. There was no way I could do that, so I had to settle for just my one free ticket.

Looks like I'll have to start flying UA 777s to ORD and checking out bumptracker.com....


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3854 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6016 times:

Why do they leave it right until you're sitting on the plane to ask for volunteers? I was always under the impression that the "bargaining" took place at the check-in desks...?

User currently offlineEFCar98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5731 times:

Quoting LHUSA (Reply 5):
I made it on as a BP5C

What is that designation?


User currently offlineTPAnx From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

IIRC, some airlines treat vouchers for being bumped the same way they treat seats given in exchange for miles...that is..availability is limited. But between
paying, and flying for free...the choice is obvious...
TPAnx  Smile



I read the news today..oh boy
User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

This has also happened to me a few times.

However, most of the time, they're not able to re-route me, and I can't take the bump.  Sad

I've been moved from E+ to C quite a few times.

I definately try to go out of my way to hit up this route when I'm flying trans-con.


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5155 times:

1. Flights are probablyy over sold because its a Widebody.... Not too many domestic widebody flights around...mostly BARBIE JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

Access-Air



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User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5139 times:

Kinda reminds me to the one time LH overbooked the AND OLD: Munich - Riem (MUC / EDDM) (closed), Germany">MUC-TXL flight. Me and my friend were about to start a 4-day trip to Berlin for sightseeing and we paid like EUR 250 for the flight AND hotel. The reason I tell you is, that that they asked for volunteers to take the later flight to TXL, reward was EUR 350 per person. Go figure

[Edited 2006-05-06 15:11:52]


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User currently offlineSuseJ772 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 814 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 8):
If you have a mean streak: Delta Fort Lauderdale to Atlanta late Friday nights.
That flight has bought me many years of Crown Room Membership.

How did you get Crown Room Membership out of it?



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26357 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 13):
Does it mean that UA flies you to your destination on a later flight AND gives you a free ticket for another round trip? That would be awedome...

Of course they do. It is called compensation. All airlines do it and airlines in the EU have to give even more at times.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
1. Flights are probablyy over sold because its a Widebody.... Not too many domestic widebody flights around...mostly BARBIE JETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

You seem to have missed that most of the world doesn't use A.net. I have heard someone on a 757, after the F/A said the aircraft was a 757 say "I wonder why United has all these Airbuses?" People don't buy their tickets because the flight is on a widebody, nor do flights oversell because they are on a widebody.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

What are you talking about? Airlines have had the same policies for years about compensation and have turned multi-billion Dollar yearly profits.

Quoting SuseJ772 (Reply 21):
How did you get Crown Room Membership out of it?

Probably because they got so much compensation that it paid for it.



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User currently offlineSUPRAZACHAIR From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Feb 2004, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4629 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 22):
Quoting Access-Air (Reply 19):
2. Now you can see how and why airlines are losing money...

What are you talking about? Airlines have had the same policies for years about compensation and have turned multi-billion Dollar yearly profits.

Not only that but statistically, only a fraction of BTT's even get used. I wish I knew the figure but its something like 40%.


User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4330 times:

Gosh- and you wonder why the American aviation business is in ruin  Yeah sure


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
25 Continental : This doesn't happen at BA or VS?
26 Raffik : "My free ticket secret" I'm sure there are those types of people who deliberatley go out there to decieve companies (airlines included). I don't. So I
27 Planesarecool : I've had two similar incidents - In Palma a few years back, i was due to fly on the first of 5 FCA flights between PMI and LGW in about a 3 hour perio
28 N1120A : You should check out FlyerTalk
29 Zrs70 : This is where bargaining comes in. I never accept free tickets from UA. Rather, I ask for vouchers. When UA gives dollar amount vouchers, you can use
30 Post contains images DIA : Correct. I'm not familiar with tht site, but it seems this idea of mine would fit in perfectly there. You are correct...they usually do this before e
31 Post contains images FiveMileFinal : Thank you for taking the words out of my mouth. I'm like 'how is this 'deceiving the airline'?
32 Post contains images Planesarecool : He was helping the airline - if nobody had volunteered, they would have had to give some unlucky passengers no choice but to sacrifice their seat (un
33 LH423 : A little melodramatic there? You think that's deception? It's simply catching onto a pattern and taking advantage of it. You think the airline doesn'
34 Raffik : I am sorry if I came across as being harsh and "melodramatic" (!) Well, good for you. There aren't many free lunches in this world, and you are lucky
35 Ultrapig : Why would any airline opverbook by such a large amount-if ther eis so much demand for the flight why not simply raise prices or have fewer cheap seats
36 Post contains images EA CO AS : Sure - you can find a way to justify just about anything if you try hard enough. Is it "help" to UA? Yes, to a point - but obviously boasting online
37 Phelpsie87 : Every time I fly out of DEN to ORD, I always notice these flights very full. I usually fly non-rev so I can not take advantage of the offer. When I wa
38 EA CO AS : For the most part the folks there are great - but there ARE people there who are only interested in screwing the airline of their choice.
39 FLY2LIM : Not my experience on AA. I will ignore the accusation of being dishonest or even immoral, although raffik did apologize. Perhaps, I can put it in bet
40 Ytib : Why take the free ticket, which is limited to capacity controls (similiar to frequent flier miles) and does not earn mileage. Ask the gate agent if yo
41 USAFHummer : There is a 744 returning on some dates this summer DEN-ORD... Greg
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