A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9127 posts, RR: 13 Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1915 times:
Hi,
I was surfing the justplanes.com website and am planning on buying the dvd's of Air Austral (772) and Air Caraibes (A332). I was wondering how did these airlines obtain ETOPS certification. I constantly read about how difficult it is to obtain ETOPS certification and that the conditions to obtain it are very strict. For instance, I remember reading several times here in the forum about BW and Trinidad not being able to meet the conditions to get ETOPS certification. Why is this and how come airlines such as Air Caraibes and Air Austral for that matter, were able to get this? Is it because they operate French registrated aircraft and possibly french crew too which means these airlines operate ETOPS flights as being a "French airline" and not a local airline of Guadeloupe/Martinique or Reunion? How does this work?
RichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1893 times:
ETOPS certification is made on both a type (eg A330, 777) basis to the manufacturer and to the individual airlines that seek it. The airline needs to demonstrate that its maintenance regime is good enough to sustain an aircraft at the required certification level, if it cant then it doesnt get ETOPS certification regardless of what country its operating under.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9127 posts, RR: 13 Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1877 times:
Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 1): ETOPS certification is made on both a type (eg A330, 777) basis to the manufacturer and to the individual airlines that seek it. The airline needs to demonstrate that its maintenance regime is good enough to sustain an aircraft at the required certification level, if it cant then it doesnt get ETOPS certification regardless of what country its operating under.
So this explains why Air Caraibes and Air Austral operate ETOPS flights to Europe because their aircraft are maintained and operated by French companies who meet the ETOPS requirements, right? But I also read somewhere that ETOPS operations are determined by the airport itself and the equipment/facilities used. What rolls do the airport and the local aviation authority play in getting ETOPS certification?
Captaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5095 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1860 times:
Trinidad until was downgraded by the FAA to Cat2. That was BW's problem. Recently it has been upgraded to Cat1, all OECS countries are also now Cat1. Martinique, Guadeloupe etc are French Territories.
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