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STL AA Changes....  
User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4388 times:

As of 9/6 the following changes will occur:
DCA goes all mainline to 4x MD-80
MSY goes all mainline to 2x MD-80
DFW adds one to 9x mix of MD-80 and 757
SEA drops one to 2x MD-80 (seasonal drop)
SFO drops one to 2x MD-80 (seasonal drop)
SAT loses mainline flight and goes to 4x ERJ's
Overall, mainline flights drop one to 57 from 58. I'm suprised by the SAT drop. I thought that would be a busy business route with SBC/AT&T. The flight always looked full. If anyone else sees any other changes please post them.

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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4344 times:

Looks like some healthy changes and opposite what LambertMan had posted I hope this is the way AA is going by adding mainline!!

Alex



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User currently offlineTIA From Albania, joined Mar 2006, 524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4312 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 1):
Looks like some healthy changes and opposite what LambertMan had posted I hope this is the way AA is going by adding mainline!!

You did read what was written, right?

Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):
Overall, mainline flights drop one to 57 from 58


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4296 times:

Quoting TIA (Reply 2):
You did read what was written, right?

I sure did, I am deaf not blind  Wink

We are going to see flunctuation with AA at STL this is expected, I would be surprised to see more addition then I would be to see reduction.

What Lambertman was talking about was a near complete drop of all mainline flights, this is one mainline drop. Not bad at all and completely expected for AA at STL.

If anything I wonder if our freqeuncy was added now.


Alex



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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2310 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

Any word on when AA Connection will move from B over to C. Last I heard that was pushed back towards the end of this year...

User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4081 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 4):
Any word on when AA Connection will move from B over to C. Last I heard that was pushed back towards the end of this year...

I'm guessing you mean the props. I thought somebody said they would be moving in the fall.


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4061 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 4):



Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 5):

Last I heard the move was scheduled for October. I'll do some fishing tomorrow and see what I can find out. Personally I hope it's much sooner than later.


User currently offlineMoman From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1054 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 3959 times:

So far they are keeping STL-TPA 2x daily. This is good because ASAIR, they always go to 1x in the summer.

Of course their times are silly; the winter 4:40 PM flight to TPA was much appreciated and it would be great if they would keep it year round and move the TPA-STL afternoon flight to 5 from 3:45 PM.

I loved the 750PM TWA flight; took that many times and I connected through STL whenever possible just to drive traffic on that flight. Guess it wasn't enough.  Smile



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3650 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 4):
Any word on when AA Connection will move from B over to C. Last I heard that was pushed back towards the end of this year...

Whenever the modifications being made to the end of C are done, I'd imagine.



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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3724 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 8):
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 4):
Any word on when AA Connection will move from B over to C. Last I heard that was pushed back towards the end of this year...

Whenever the modifications being made to the end of C are done, I'd imagine.

Just did some "fishing" and the move is still scheduled for October but with no firm date known. Renovations are planned but the details on those plans are still in the planning stage. Escalators are a strong possibility.


User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2310 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Quoting Boeing nut (Reply 9):
Just did some "fishing" and the move is still scheduled for October but with no firm date known. Renovations are planned but the details on those plans are still in the planning stage. Escalators are a strong possibility

cool, thanks for the info! Been a while since I have been thru STL. Hopefully by moving all AA ops to C will make the concourse a bustling place again!


User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting Boeing nut (Reply 9):
Just did some "fishing" and the move is still scheduled for October but with no firm date known. Renovations are planned but the details on those plans are still in the planning stage. Escalators are a strong possibility.

I wonder what type of renovations will occur. All the props would be located at the end of the C concourse, right? Interesting about the escalators though. How would that work? Also, are the plasma screens in operation yet?


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 11):
I wonder what type of renovations will occur.

I'm not sure, but my guess would be a continuation of the renovations that are occuring in the beginning of C concourse.

Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 11):
All the props would be located at the end of the C concourse, right?

Not quite. My understanding is that thier main gate will be C31. Then Trans States will "heard" the passengers to thier respective aircraft from there. No covered access, which to me is stupid, but oh well..........

Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 11):
Interesting about the escalators though. How would that work?

I imagine the escalators will be "cutom fit" installed on the outside of the biulding, yet designed with over head protection from the elements, but that's a guess.

Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 11):
Also, are the plasma screens in operation yet?

No, and for the life of me I have no idea why. The damned things have been up for months now.


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

Quoting Boeing nut (Reply 12):
Quoting Stl1326 (Reply 11):
Also, are the plasma screens in operation yet?

No, and for the life of me I have no idea why. The damned things have been up for months now.

I stand corrected!!! They are sporatically coming on line! One by the C & D checkopint, one at the C concourse "elbow" and one at the end of the B concourse. No gate screens are on line yet as I write this. Nice to see though - finally.


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):
I'm suprised by the SAT drop. I

Did UA's build-up of SAT include STL??? If so, this might be part of the reason. All in all, AA seems to be simply squeezing capacity in most markets less the largest of the large...


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 14):

Did UA's build-up of SAT include STL??? If so, this might be part of the reason. All in all, AA seems to be simply squeezing capacity in most markets less the largest of the large...

No, only AA flies STL-SAT n/s, it isn't even offered by Southwest (which surprises me also but I hope to see it soon with the addition of DAL coming into the line).

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 13):
I stand corrected!!! They are sporatically coming on line! One by the C & D checkopint, one at the C concourse "elbow" and one at the end of the B concourse. No gate screens are on line yet as I write this. Nice to see though - finally.

These are just the flight information screens correct? not the ones we see at the gate, because those are not "working" just simply using plastic city names right?



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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3041 times:

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 15):
These are just the flight information screens correct? not the ones we see at the gate, because those are not "working" just simply using plastic city names right?

Correct.


User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 14):
Quoting Stl1326 (Thread starter):
I'm suprised by the SAT drop. I



Quoting PVD757 (Reply 14):
Did UA's build-up of SAT include STL??? If so, this might be part of the reason. All in all, AA seems to be simply squeezing capacity in most markets less the largest of the large...

I think the added frequency is good for the business traveler and AA will be able to maximize the fare and push more people through DAL to connect to SAT on lower fare tickets. Just a guess. UA is not serving STL-SAT they are serving STL-MSY. AA will make MSY all mainline from STL 2XMD80


User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 13):
I stand corrected!!! They are sporatically coming on line! One by the C & D checkopint, one at the C concourse "elbow" and one at the end of the B concourse. No gate screens are on line yet as I write this. Nice to see though - finally.

Thanks for all the information. I'm flying on American in two weeks and was hoping to get to see all the improvements in the C concourse since I haven't been in there since last year.


User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting Boeing Nut (Reply 6):

Last I heard the move was scheduled for October. I'll do some fishing tomorrow and see what I can find out. Personally I hope it's much sooner than later.

Boeing Nut, have you heard any scuttlebutt about what will happen to "B" when AX moves out? I know there is a lot of new carpets, etc but are there any plans to re-install some jetways and maybe shift some carriers from "A" where some much needed renovations can take place?


User currently offlineStlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 19):
I know there is a lot of new carpets, etc but are there any plans to re-install some jetways and maybe shift some carriers from "A" where some much needed renovations can take place?

There are two carriers presently serving STL that are interested in a move to the B Concourse pending the addition of jetways to the gate areas.



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User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 20):
There are two carriers presently serving STL that are interested in a move to the B Concourse pending the addition of jetways to the gate areas.

OK Gavin...I will play here. I have not the first clue about who those two would be, but I will speculate.

Frontier-If nothing else, it will allow them to get out of that wasteland otherwise known as Concourse "D".

Northwest-A move to "B" would allow them to start flying Airbuses to STL, currently not possible with them tucked into the area at the beginning of "A". The gate number escapes me, either A1 or A2.

Can't think of anyone else who would need to move, and I have not heard of any airlines looking to increase flights but are unable to do so because of limited gate space. Would be nice to see "B" turned into an alliance concourse Skyteam (CO, DL, NW) or Star (UA, US)


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 20):
There are two carriers presently serving STL that are interested in a move to the B Concourse pending the addition of jetways to the gate areas.



Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 21):
Frontier-If nothing else, it will allow them to get out of that wasteland otherwise known as Concourse "D".

That's one. US Airways is the other rumored one. I remember when the rumors were hot and heavy that they were in contention to merge with TWA. I have absolutely no time frame when that, along with the jetway installation, would occur however.


User currently offlineMrSTL From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 468 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2717 times:

Quoting Boeing nut (Reply 22):
US Airways

It would be nice to see an US Airways expansion in STL! Not that a move would indicate an expansion. While I'm dreaming it would also be nice to see JetBlue take over the entire D concourse.  wink 


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Quoting MrSTL (Reply 23):
While I'm dreaming it would also be nice to see JetBlue take over the entire D concourse.

That's still a possibility. Whenever I talk to the higher ups, JetBlue has always been mentioned as "the next airline" at STL.


25 Atrude777 : I also considered NWA too, since they want to bring the Airbus in. NWA is at A-3 and A-5 in the A concourse. Maybe not totally unrealistic...Maybe a
26 OzarkD9S : I would love to see US take over all of B and "focus city" STL. Pipe dream I know, BUT: at one time in the 90's US had flights to PIT, PHL and CLT plu
27 Jmy007 : IIRC, B used to have jetways. When where those taken away?
28 Atrude777 : Very Interesting. How interested IS US if they are into STL? As I said earlier I wouldn't be surprised to see DCA, FLL and LAS added back anything el
29 OzarkD9S : Pure speculation on my part, but they have shown interest in the past. It seems to me that given STL's location, decent population and the amount of
30 LambertMan : Someone on this forum recently said that the Airbus could fit into A-5? How many gates could be fit into concourse B? I would guess about 5? It could
31 Atrude777 : Have heard tim and time again AirTran is just NOT interetsed in STL at the moment. We will see.
32 Boeing Nut : B1, B3 and B5 were still in existence when I started working for the airport authority back in '97, but were removed shortly there after. The rest we
33 Post contains images OzarkD9S : Nobody is apparently. Seems FL is happy picking up the stray gate here and there at other airports than doing anything major right now, especially in
34 Stlgph : Ding ding ding! Right on the first try.
35 Atrude777 : Oops, I didn't see the edit, I meant Time and Time..... Sorry!
36 Stl1326 : Not that it really matters but I did add the mainline flights wrong and really there is no change in mainline flights from the summer to the fall sch
37 BHMNONREV : Last time I peeked on Google Earth, it looked like you could put two on the east side of the concourse, one on the west (if not for the tower there c
38 Post contains links and images BHMNONREV : Pulled this off of Google Earth via Photobucket.. Any ideas, suggestions??
39 Stlgph : start with tearing down the parking garage out front so you can see the wonderful terminal building in its glory!
40 BHMNONREV : lol...no argument from me. In my ideal scenario part of the terminal would be located where the parking garage sits anyway, but the four domes would
41 Boeing Nut : There is currently a big project going on with the parking garage to take care of the, IMO, massive deterioration of the garage. I think they would h
42 OzarkD9S : 4 Jetways on the stem, 6-8 Jetways on the outer "Y". IIRC correctly, there were 10 mainline Jetways on the concourse when it was the AA concourse in
43 Post contains images BHMNONREV : You may be right about the number of jetways on B, although I personally don't remember that many. I believe the majority of the jetways were install
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