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Sorry Looking US Aircraft At DCA  
User currently offlineNRTfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

Flying DCA-TPA this weekend, and on my last several trips on US, I've been struck by the pathetic appearance of US planes on the C pier. Looks like almost any one of them could go in the database with a "desparately in need of a paint job" comment.

Is this somehow specific to DCA routes or just typical of the short/medium haul fleet?

Not talking about the sharp-looking new E170s of course, or the PSA livery I had the pleasure of seeing push back on taxi to the gate today.

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User currently offlineATAIndy From United States of America, joined May 2004, 584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6262 times:

Do you have any pictures? It would help me see what you are talking about better.

-Feister



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6210 times:

N532AU is an especially bad offender.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6121 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
N532AU is an especially bad offender.

I'm rather surprised it's not up on cinderblocks... That thing looks like a "schtick-dreck," yiddish for a piece of s[bleep]...



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User currently offlineNRTfan From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5999 times:

thanks for the help cubsrule. several others like that in the database. unfortunatley, I didn't have my camera (or I'd have posted the PSA 319!)

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5978 times:

Well the planes are scheduled to be repainted...might take a bit longer, but it will happen.

User currently offlineL1329II From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5935 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
N532AU is an especially bad offender.

UH OH ... better get Maaco!


User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2628 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

Quoting L1329II (Reply 6):
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
N532AU is an especially bad offender.

UH OH ... better get Maaco!

I think the plane was painted by Maaco.  Smile


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 2):
N532AU is an especially bad offender.

Uh, wow. How can a pax not have at least a small question about airworthiness when a bird looks like that?

I've seen birds in the desert that look like they're in better condition.

(Before anyone flames me, I know paint condition and maintenance quality don't have a direct correlation, per se, but it's hard not to make judgements based on appearance)

Lincoln



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5849 times:

Uhhhhh, that photograph was taken over a year ago.

Any current proof?



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22304 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5849 times:

The interesting thing is that 532 has looked like that at least since the summer of 2004, but in January of 2004, the paint was spotless.


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Maybe just a very poor repaint at some point in early 2004? It sure went downhill quickly.



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6901 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

I have noticed it in the US 734s & 752s here in FLL and other points around Florida, it appears they are withdrawing them, which is why they are like that.

User currently offlineDLKAPA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5798 times:

A really crappy paintjob:


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User currently offlineBallpeeen From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5648 times:

Check out the Air Wisconsin CRJ-200s. They were painted less than a year ago, and the stuff is coming off like it's molting season. Also, if you get close enough, check out the poor stenciling, runs/drips, orange peel, overspray and fish eyes on the paint that has had the audacity to stay on the airplanes. It's every possible mistake a painter can make...on every single airplane.

User currently offlinePHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1231 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

A few years back when these bad finishes started showing their true colors. I noticed how bad even the blending for touchups was, the color is way off. You can always clearly notice spots they tried to fix up. I think the company that they use to contract out to, or even still do. Just doesn't do prep work correctly.

Balpeen, I would like to get up close to one of the Air Whisky CRJ2 to see that. Just sounds like it was incredibly rushed.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Qatar, joined Feb 2000, 780 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5496 times:

the paint is probbably the same as the original, alltho when you apply fresh paint to the one exposed to the sun it would appear as different shade. Also black colour is more noticeable when faded.

I care more about the inside of the plane then the outside, but i can imagine some people that are not into aviation think its a unsafe thing to be on.Well not good commercial for the company. I guess US Airways is the Air France of the USA....lol
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User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3493 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4334 times:

Personally, I think the wear & tear looks pretty cool.


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User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Just like an automobile or any other vehicle, the darker the color not only the greater the visibility of routine dirt but also the greater the propensity for dramatic color fading.....


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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Remember that the fleet is going to get repainted in the near future. And I was lucky enough to see the Allegheny Retrojet a couple of weeks ago during a turn at DCA, and got to see the PSA bird today in LGA.



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User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6901 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 18):
And I was lucky enough to see the Allegheny Retrojet a couple of weeks ago during a turn at DCA, and got to see the PSA bird today in LGA.

I got them both at TPA on the same day within an hour or so of each other.
Compared to most of the other US aircraft that day they looked great, the new merger livery also looks great - but I don't think many of the 734s will see it on them.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4970 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4121 times:

A couple of thoughts:

(1) The black is going to show abrasion more readily than some other colors.

(2) Nevertheless, it is conceivable that some paint quality or prep issues existed.

(3) Most importantly, lack of paint makes it easier to see cracks and stuff, so this is actually a positive safety development by US!  Smile [Yeah, I know, corrosion...shucks.]


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 16):
Personally, I think the wear & tear looks pretty cool.



Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 17):
Just like an automobile or any other vehicle, the darker the color not only the greater the visibility of routine dirt but also the greater the propensity for dramatic color fading.....

Yeah, and when an automobile shows cracking and peeling in its paint job, it looks terrible. It looks terrible on a car; it looks terrible on an aircraft...



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User currently offlineSonOfACaptain From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1747 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 21):
It looks terrible on a car; it looks terrible on an aircraft...

Indeed, but, let's say this car owner is living off of minimum wage. Do you think he/she is going to spend scarce money on new paint? That is what happened with US. It was either spend money on paint, or maintenance. Clearly the chose the best option.

Now we just need to get the flying public to realize this.

-SOAC



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9112 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4063 times:

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 22):
Indeed, but, let's say this car owner is living off of minimum wage. Do you think he/she is going to spend scarce money on new paint? That is what happened with US. It was either spend money on paint, or maintenance. Clearly the chose the best option.

I see your point, and yet our friends at DL think differently...  sarcastic 
Weren't they conducting a livery change study??? And is that absolutely necessary right now considering they are still in bk protection???



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3964 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4033 times:

Moronic. Seeing as how they didn't even finish the last round of repaints...

25 Wjcandee : Actually, they weren't. Ogilvy and Mather, the geniuses behind the incredibly-derivative and lamely-unimaginative "Ireland. Get lucky." and "Brazil.
26 Ballpeeen : Despite its marketing effect and customer "curb appeal", paint really does serve a maintenance purpose: it provides corrosion protection and allows f
27 Visakow : Just give them some time, now that the merger has gone thru I'm sure this ugliness will go away. All the old Republics looked like hell too when they
28 PanAm330 : They most certainly are not withdrawing the 757s. In fact, they just bought 3 more from HP. As for the 734s, I believe they've rid themselves of most
29 Post contains links and images Sleekjet : Here's a look at 532 that I took just before Christmas: View Large View MediumPhoto © Tim Perkins
30 Supa7E7 : Why not? Seems like all the retired 737s were -300s. Most if not all original -400s are still flying for US today. They must like the rather high sea
31 MiCorazonAzul : US definetly needs to do something about those 737's. Every single one I see at RSW on a daily basis is in DIRE need of a paint job. I just don't thin
32 Rdwelch : I'm just waiting until they get that oh so special "trailer trash" bondo combination. Gus.
33 7E72004 : Give it some time...the planes will be repainted, etc. It would be nice to see all of the planes repainted in the new colors but it takes a while.
34 DAYflyer : I doubt if a repaint will be done soon since most of the Boeings are being phased out in favor of the A319/320 family. The 757 and 767 will also disap
35 Spartanmjf : In terms of customer relations, there is an issue of perception. I don't remember where I heard the line, but I believe it was from someone at People
36 UsAirways16bwi : as long as the aircraft safely gets you to your destination in one piece, who the hell cares what it looks like on the outside?
37 PanAm330 : Well, considering the other A330s and the A350s aren't being delivered until at least 2009 (IIRC), I'd like to think they'd paint their birds. Also,
38 DTWAGENT : Please tell me that this is one of the first aircraft to be repainted?????
39 MrMcCoy : I think you'll notice (as has been alluded to more than once in this thread) is the viability of a very very dark (close to black) paintjob and how q
40 Steeler83 : Someone told me on another thread that they will not start any large-scale phasing out of the 737s, 757 and 767 for at least another 3 or 4 years, st
41 Post contains links and images ScottB : Nope. N645US: View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael Licko N646US: View Large View MediumPhoto © Snorre - VIP Vienna International Planespot
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