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DL Announces Killeen  
User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060508/98720.html

Two daily RJ's eff. 09/07/2006.

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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

One doesn't even have to read the article to know to which hub these flights go Big grin . Surprised to see this addition, but not sure what to make of it, though.

User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2448 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4096 times:

A couple of weeks ago I visited family in Killeen. Definately the nicest small town airport I've been to. When I was boarding my ERJ to take me back to Dallas on my way home, someone in line behind me asked one of the Eagle employees if they'd heard about anyone new coming to the airport. He of course asked specifically about Southwest, but the Eagle guy told him there had been rumors of ASA. Guess he was right!



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User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

I knew it all along DL had to start this service that just to much govt money (Ft. Hood) to be giving it away to AA and CO. I can see ever more flts or upgrade a/c in the coming months.  champagne 


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User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
DL Announces Killeen

Isn't this DL's return to ILE? I'm quite sure I flew DFW-ILE on DL many years ago. Of course this time it's from ATL.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
One doesn't even have to read the article to know to which hub these flights go

Nope! Not that I'm complaining. One more place us Atlantans can fly to nonstop!


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 4):
One more place us Atlantans can fly to nonstop!

There is another coming too



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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 4):
Isn't this DL's return to ILE? I'm quite sure I flew DFW-ILE on DL many years ago.

Yes. DL flew from DFW to Killeen for many years using the EMB120.


User currently offlineBelizexp From Belize, joined Dec 2005, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3773 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 5):
There is another coming too

Can you drop a clue to where this new route going.



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User currently offlineCIDflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2302 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3706 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 5):
There is another coming too

my curiosity is piqued! Will it be an existing DL market or brand new one?


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3663 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 5):
There is another coming too

Of course there is. Where there is a strip of pavement longer than 1000', DL will send a plane linking it with ATL.  Smile


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5804 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3572 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 9):
Of course there is. Where there is a strip of pavement longer than 1000', DL will send a plane linking it with ATL.

Except we are still waiting here in Fresno for our ATL flights.  Wink



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User currently offlineRookinla From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 307 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3500 times:

Probably not likely yet but I would like to see OCF added. It's most likely the last viable Florida market to serve from ATL for DL...I think that someone will definitely take the chance before too much longer. Metro area over 300K..no air service...but lots of travelers willing to pay a premium to avoid driving to MCO...sounds like OCF-ATL could work to me probably 3X CRJ to start. OCF has already secured funds for a new terminal building and nice runway improvements. Any hints as to what city it actually is?

User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3409 times:

Very strange announcement indeed. This same topic was discussed here several months ago, and I was of the opinion was that AA and CO pretty much had the market covered, I didn't see DL coming in and being successful.

Certainly some better options for the Killeen/Ft. Hood traveller, but can DL make it last...


User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Killeen is a great town with a great airport. I am happy that the city officials along with the military decided to move the commercial airline services to Grey Army Airfield. The best big-little terminal out there. I was truely impressed with it.

Couldn't some of the other majors "express" flights take advantage of the military money to be had at GRK? How about a carrier from the west. Perhaps US/HP Express from PHX or UA Express from DEN? NW Airlink from MEM?



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 13):
I am happy that the city officials along with the military decided to move the commercial airline services to Grey Army Airfield.

When did this occur? Moving from ILE to GRK? Anyone have info on that? According to AirNav GRK is not open to civilian commercial traffic, and in fact a PPR is required for every aircraft that is not OD Green . . .

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 13):
Killeen is a great town

No it isn't. It was a craphole in 1977-78 when I was stationed there, and it was a craphole in 1999 when I was back for a short visit. It'll never be anything but a military moocher - and if the US Army wasn't there, Killeen wouldn't be either. (Nor would Harker Heights or Copperas Cove for that matter).


User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Whoaaaa Ancflyer,you might want to chill on the generalizations. The Central Texas area has changed much in the last 10 years (including Copperas Cove and Harker Heights). Truth is this one of the fasted growing areas in Texas. Not only the largest military base in the free world but also the largest Hospital in Texas just minutes down the road in Temple. And Sun City retirement community (think 55 and older and RICH) just 25 minutes south of GRK.

The increase interest from airlines is from of course a new customer base to tap into. Fact,75% of the area traffic travel to AUS to fly,and 25% from GRK. Getting to AUS from the north is a PAIN,and many who live in Round Rock and Georgetown on the north side of Austin are finding it easier to drive north 30-40 minutes to GRK. Heck,if you do not check luggage,you can go from the gate to your car in 6 minutes...........So just getting some of that 75% to fly local is nice increase.

The aviation officials are also grounded in reality. They know the most they can expect now are regional airlines. But as traffic grows they know inquiries from airlines will grow.

As regards service from SWA,not likely,but as an airport official once stated they know GRK is there.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Quoting William (Reply 15):
Whoaaaa Ancflyer,you might want to chill on the generalizations.

Just callin' it like I saw it . . . in 1999 and in the late 1970s.

That's neither here nor there really, since the possibility of me returning to that area is about as good as me being elected Pope tomorrow . . .

Anyway - GRK vice ILE?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
When did this occur? Moving from ILE to GRK? Anyone have info on that?


User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3128 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1):
Surprised to see this addition, but not sure what to make of it, though.

I think there are two choices for this one?

a - What the hell another gap in our "fly everywhere within 9000 miles from Atlanta" campaign?

or

b - What the hell we have to fly there from Atlanta if anyone else flies there from anywhere.

'902



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User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 16):
Anyway - GRK vice ILE?

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
When did this occur? Moving from ILE to GRK? Anyone have info on that?

I can't give you an exact date, but I can tell you it has been since I got here to the sand box in April 04, because one of my co-workers was pitching a fit when our travel office booked him to GRK instead of ILE, until it was explained to him about the airport change. I believe it was sometime during that summer of '04.

Maybe one of the locals can pipe in here...


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 17):
I think there are two choices for this one?

a - What the hell another gap in our "fly everywhere within 9000 miles from Atlanta" campaign?

or

b - What the hell we have to fly there from Atlanta if anyone else flies there from anywhere.

And still they can't seem to find their way back to HAM  weeping  worried .


User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
No it isn't. It was a craphole in 1977-78 when I was stationed there, and it was a craphole in 1999 when I was back for a short visit. It'll never be anything but a military moocher - and if the US Army wasn't there, Killeen wouldn't be either. (Nor would Harker Heights or Copperas Cove for that matter).

Dang man! Take a chill pill. A lot has changed since 1999 my friend. The whole area has doubled or perhaps tripled in size since then. Many, many new businesses have moved in. I was surprised myself at all the developement that has taken place when I went back about a month and a half ago.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
When did this occur? Moving from ILE to GRK? Anyone have info on that?

Yeah, it's probably been a lil over a year or two that the move occured. Killeen built a fresh new terminal and road infrastructure leading to it. The terminal is located near the south end of the runway, while the military still occupies the other side. Air traffic has steadily grown over the years and the Saabs and ATR's of Eage and Continental Express respectively were not cutting it anymore. Both airlines are bringing in the RJ's now that they have use of the longer runway at Grey. Granted both airlines are using a mix of RJs and propliners. Google the new airport and you will see pics of the new terminal.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 20):
Yeah, it's probably been a lil over a year or two that the move occured. Killeen built a fresh new terminal and road infrastructure leading to it. The terminal is located near the south end of the runway, while the military still occupies the other side. Air traffic has steadily grown over the years and the Saabs and ATR's of Eage and Continental Express respectively were not cutting it anymore. Both airlines are bringing in the RJ's now that they have use of the longer runway at Grey. Granted both airlines are using a mix of RJs and propliners. Google the new airport and you will see pics of the new terminal.

Very good for Killeen . . . AirNav doesn't have the updated info at all . . .

I don't have fond memories of the Rio Scareways DHC-6s from ILE-DFW back in the day.

Nice looking new terminal . . . .


User currently offlineWilliam From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

Hey Ancflyer,the next time you happen to fly through GRK,you will notice a little museum (no lie) dedicated Rio Airways (Ok,it was Scareways when they had the Twin Otters).

Back to the subject at hand,nice to have DL back,and expect RJ service from either UA or US to points west per rumors. There is alot of traffic that AUS siphons from here,and its about to change.


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2584 times:

Quoting Belizexp (Reply 7):
Can you drop a clue to where this new route going.



Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 8):
my curiosity is piqued! Will it be an existing DL market or brand new one?

Its an existing DL market.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6043 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2575 times:

GRK is an interesting joint-use airport. It's one of the several in Texas that I know of where the available runway length has nearly been cut in half due to their reluctance to retract the aircraft arresting wires.


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25 CIDflyer : I am going to guess FSD-ATL[Edited 2006-05-13 04:19:24]
26 Misbeehavin : That would be awesone! That way I can completely avoid MSP and NorthWorst.
27 CIDflyer : Does anyone know which cities are left that have service to CVG without ATL service?
28 Misbeehavin : The only two I can think of are Huntington, WV (HTS) and State College, PA (SCE).
29 Misbeehavin : And add Cedar Rapids, IA (CID) & Erie, PA (ERI) - service not started yet, I don't think. Or maybe it's seasonal or something.
30 Post contains images CIDflyer : Cedar Rapids-Atlanta service will start June 9th. This will be our first link to the ATL hub and I hope to fly it soon! Looks like ERI also gets thei
31 Post contains links CIDflyer : it was indeed FSD to ATL, service announced today DL Adds Atlanta-Sioux Falls (by RwSEA May 15 2006 in Civil Aviation)
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