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Malev's Black Noses  
User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Just curious, are Malev's black noses just a unique part of their paint scheme, or does it serve some sort of purpose?

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User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Always found it to be ... an eyesore. But then again, visualized the same aircraft without the big nose and found that it would look too plain, as in Euro-white plain. Think of it of a nice huge mole, a beauty mark in certain parts of the world...

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Is this a new livery? Their old one had blue (I think) noses...

User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

Quoting Irobertson (Thread starter):
are Malev's black noses just a unique part of their paint scheme, or does it serve some sort of purpose?

It's because brown noses wouldn't get any respect. Big grin

On a serious note, I think I read something about how darker colors are used to mitigate radio wave interference on the equipment in the radome, depending on what is installed--but I could be wrong.

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User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1030 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2424 times:

Quoting Airwave (Reply 3):
I think I read something about how darker colors are used to mitigate radio wave interference on the equipment in the radome, depending on what is installed--but I could be wrong.

This reminds me -- is this why a lot of liveries used to have black "spots" on the radome?


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6265 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2399 times:

I've also heard it reduces glare into the cockpit...and as far as I know, MALEV does have dark blue noses, based on my many past adventures to Hungary

User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2351 times:

Hmm... the glare thing I'm aware of as it's been used for years around the cockpit windows, as can been seen on Westjet 737s easily. I wondered about the black noses on Alitalia as well and wondered if it's just a cosmetic thing.

User currently offlineDean From Hungary, joined Apr 2005, 215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2169 times:

Quoting Irobertson (Thread starter):
Malev's black noses

it's blue.
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I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the technology or radio waves... but I know those blue noses are there because when they decided to redesign the livery (in 1988) they wanted to pick some main "pieces" from the old design. I think MA has an elegant livery, even if it's nearly 20 years old...


User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

White nose shows marks more easily.
A dark nose tends to cover them up.
If you see a white mark on a dark nose.. you know it needs inspecting closer...

In Germany if you see a football nose you can give the plane a good kick'in towards the airport fence.. and if you go through it.. you score a goal.



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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7924 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

I think it looks awesome. Very distinctive and pretty.


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User currently offlineAdamlaskiewicz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 6):
the glare thing I'm aware of as it's been used for years around the cockpit windows, as can been seen on Westjet 737s easily

This can also be seen on LOT aircraft.


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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2828 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1926 times:

And SATA International:


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User currently offlineHeathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 967 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

And WN

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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3242 posts, RR: 45
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1878 times:

Just thought I'd contribute a bit, the DL Widget scheme had black noses throughout their fleet.


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So did TW, a glare sheet anyway, on some of their 747s


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And AA, on their MD-80s (although if I'm not mistaken, this is being phased out)


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User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

After all this, my guess is that Malev's (I stand corrected) BLUE noses are just a unique part of their paint scheme. If it was a glare shield, it would be close to the cockpit windows, but since it isn't, and it's rather large, it must just be cosmetic.

User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Another thought... could there be a ulterior motive involved by Malev? From head on, someone could easily recognize the large blue spot and think "Malev". I'm reminded of how the US Navy and Grummann painted a radiation symbol on the noses of the EA-6B Prowlers so that the LSOs on carriers could tell them apart on landing from the A-6 Intruders. Perhaps there's some similarity here?

(yeah yeah, I know Malev isn't landing their aircraft on many carriers these days...)


User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2828 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Quoting Irobertson (Reply 15):
(yeah yeah, I know Malev isn't landing their aircraft on many carriers these days...)

What about this one then?


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Don't underestimate the Hungarian navy or Malev landings  Wink



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User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1590 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Ive herd JFK tower refer to Malev traffic as ½Blue Nose 767½

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Those pictures of Malev helping celebrate accession to the EU are fantastic!

Holy Goulash Batman! Is there big naked fat guy sitting on the roof in this picture!?


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User currently offlineUtapao From Thailand, joined Jul 2005, 645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Several previous posts in the archived section on "black noses". Served a specific purpose originally, but now seems to not be as important. Assume those that still use it is just the fact they haven't changed their livery.

RE: Black Nosed Aircraft (by Phollingsworth Mar 28 2004 in Civil Aviation)#ID1481056



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