Clo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2600 times:
TAME, an airline from Ecuador, that links UIO-TUA-CLO switched since the beginning of May the aircraft used on that route. They were using a Fokker 28 and now they fly on one of their brand new Embraer 170. I believe is the first airplane of this type to fly in a regular basis to an airport in Colombia.
Something that surprises me is the little noise TAME did regarding this change. Just a short note in Cali´s local newspaper. I think they missed an opportunity to attract more passengers to use its service.
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2496 posts, RR: 15 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
Quoting Clo1973 (Thread starter): Something that surprises me is the little noise TAME did regarding this change.
TAME has always been very shy with this route, almost as shy as the loads they register. I cannot picture how they still operate this route when they average loads in low-season as low as 23%.
Hopefully with this new positive change they would indeed drag more passengers onto their planes.
Airportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2363 times:
Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 1): TAME has always been very shy with this route, almost as shy as the loads they register. I cannot picture how they still operate this route when they average loads in low-season as low as 23%.
Hopefully with this new positive change they would indeed drag more passengers onto their planes.
SOUTHAMERICA
Its the only airline in the region offering connection from the northern border of ecuador and the capital to an other city in colombia beside bogota. They used to get little passenger counts and thats why they sent the F28 and not the 721. Also the MTOW was pretty limited to cali CALI, mainly because of the stop over at TULCAN. Limited due to temperature, rwy length and analisis and the height of the city. So you cant expect to take out SOO many passengers either.
Clo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2311 times:
Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 1): TAME has always been very shy with this route, almost as shy as the loads they register. I cannot picture how they still operate this route when they average loads in low-season as low as 23%.
Average loads for 2005 (january - july) were 47%. Although not spectacular, I bet they do some money otherwise I don´t see how Tame has been able to support this route for 14 years. Right now Cali is Tame´s only international destination, some time ago they dropped its routes to Lima, Santiago and Havana.
SOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2496 posts, RR: 15 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2196 times:
Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 7): Its the only airline in the region offering connection from the northern border of ecuador and the capital to an other city in colombia beside bogota.
True. However, Aires regularly flies between Cali and Ipiales on a three-weekly basis as well, serving a very similar market to that of Tulcan.
Quoting Clo1973 (Reply 9): Average loads for 2005 (january - july) were 47%. Although not spectacular, I bet they do some money otherwise I don´t see how Tame has been able to support this route for 14 years.
Despite not knowing the internal dynamics of TAME, state-owned airlines are not precisely known for being extremely business-driven. It wouldn't be too surprising if they have mantained this route under marginal profits. Who knows.
But these flights do tend to have a higher-yielding profile, since they are catering for a very limited market with little offer. Such low loads mean that yields are at least enough to minimally break-even.
For a similar example, look at Cali-Tumaco for instance, easily one of Avianca's highest-yielding routes in their domestic system, regardless of loads or profits.
777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1401 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2097 times:
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 14): I understand that the FAC F-28 (former presidential plane) was refurbished in order to comply with Aerocivil regulations.. am I right?
Right after the new plane was received, plans were to improve the engines (I don't know if that meant new ones or what.......) and give the old bird a nice MX. I think the President still use for places the 737 can't go. Also that the F-28 is used by the military and some ministros for their official use.
Last february on my way to MED i saw parked on Catam, but on my way back was gone, I assumed it was flying, of course, could be parked somewhere else.......
Good luck.
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777jaah From Colombia, joined Jan 2006, 1401 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Speaking of the devil I just saw from my apartment the former presidential F-28 taking off from Bogota, north bound and it was a little bit louder than a MD-83. It's a shame a didn't have my camera with me..........
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Clo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1987 times:
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 16): What I don't understand about this is why EQ stops at Tulcan. Why don't they go to Cali directly?
Soren
This is due to govermental restrictions. TAME has to stop in Tulcan in order to have rights to fly the whole route.
Very much like regulations for new frecuencies between Spain and Colombia. Air Madrid has to stop in Cartagena in order to fly from Madrid to Bogota (Air Madrid choices were touristic cities in the caribbean coast). Other option is code-share, Air Comet went for this and flies MAD-BOG with Aerorepublica; Avianca flies CLO-MAD with Iberia.
The point for this is to develop underserved markets...
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