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?! The First A380 Floor Plan! Find The Details!  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46142 times:

Flight published the recently completed A380 floor plan.

at first glance:

- 474 seats
- lounge in upperdeck nose
- 2 seemingly different F(!?) classes on each deck
- lots of other interesting details

This is obviously a test configuration. An enormous amout of galleys, lavatories, bunks etc. probably to test as much functionality as possible.

Enjoy & please share interesting details you find.

http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=12642
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http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...trip+with+474+passengers+this.html

[Edited 2006-05-09 23:45:47]

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User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46105 times:

Damn that is sweet....looks like a cruise ship cabin interior.... sweet!


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46069 times:

Now that you look at it there just doesn't seem to be that much to it. Not as much First and Raffles Class seating as I expected. I suppose they understand yield management more than I do though it must be a good mix if it sticks.


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User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46069 times:

I cant help but think they should have out in more seats in the first class cabin. 4 abreast on an A380! Seems to be a big gap between the outer first class seats and the interior walls. A waste of Space? If they rotated the outer first seats 45degrees there would be room for maybe 4 more.

I like the stairs at the rear. The economy section looks no different to that on a 744 really.

Looking at this closely, there seems to be no interior features that are not already on 747/A340/777. I was expecting at least a bar at the front of the plane. I have to say im a bit dissapointed. It also makes me wonder about realistic 748 seating arrangements and seat miles 450? Dont think so.

[Edited 2006-05-09 23:48:37]

User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46024 times:

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
- 2 seemingly different F(!?) classes on each deck

Was SQ planning 4 class all along? Looks like they have some sort of premium economy at 8 abreast on the main deck.

And what's up with all that space between the window and the window side seats in the main deck F class?

[Edited 2006-05-09 23:49:27]


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46024 times:

It definitely is a little underwhelming, IMO...however since this is a test configuration, Im sure we'll see a bit more "jazz" out of the various configs of the airlines who operate it...

Greg

[Edited 2006-05-09 23:49:16]


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 914 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 46024 times:

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
Flight published the recently completed A380 floor plan.

Are we absolutely sure this is the configuration selected by SQ?

I had the impression this was an experimental cabin to test the aircraft systems and furnishings, not an airline selected cabin. I didn't see anything in the article that hinted this was specifically for SQ.

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):

at first glance:
- 474 seats

So maybe the A388 really isn't a realistic 555-seat aircraft after all?  eyebrow 

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
- 2 seemingly different F(!?) classes on each deck

Perhaps they are installing several different service levels to they can simultaneously test as many cabin items as possible. The aircraft also appears to have a premium economy cabin, and I wasn't under the impression that SQ would be installing Y+

Quoting Keesje (Thread starter):
- lounge in upperdeck nose

If I have my scale right, those couches have enough room for 3-4 bums each...
not a bad touch..


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45986 times:

Folks I realized this can´t be the SQ. It´s the #2 aircraft.. that´s why it has 2 different F classes, a relatively small business class & an seemingly enormous amount of galleys.. I still had time to correct the start of the thread.

[Edited 2006-05-09 23:59:27]

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45986 times:

I am going out on a limb and assume that this is an Airbus crafted interior and has no relation to the actual Singapore Airlines Limited plan...


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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45943 times:

Keesje, thanks for posting this.

Let's all keep in mind that this may not be the configuration that SQ fit for operational use. Then again, it may be. I do think it's odd that F, C, and Y are each found on both decks. I would have put F followed by Y on the maindeck and C followed by XY on the upper deck.

Another possibility is that SQ are still testing different seats, though I doubt this is the case. I would have expected that seats would already have been chosen and contracts let.


User currently offlineEI321 From Iraq, joined Jul 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45905 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 6):
So maybe the A388 really isn't a realistic 555-seat aircraft after all?

As always it depends. 555 is what Airbus quotes in a typical 3 class layout. I think something like 480 was the lowest planned number to date (SQ?). Most airlines will have around 540 in 3 classes.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45905 times:

Looks like the seating plan for the virtual flight Airbus will be taking the A380 on next week - every type of seat a customer has requested and every galley and restroom layout.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 6):
So maybe the A388 really isn't a realistic 555-seat aircraft after all?

I know you were probably joking, but at what point does Airbus stop being responsible for the number of seats an airline places onboard the A380? There have been comments made on this forum deriding the A380 for the 555 seat layout as not being a huge jump over the 747-400s typical seating numbers, and remarks were made when it became known that some airlines were looking at a 474 seat layout, but Airbus has all along provided an aircraft capable of 873 pax at the extreme and probably more than 650 at a suitable comfort level.


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45875 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 6):
So maybe the A388 really isn't a realistic 555-seat aircraft after all?

You can perfectly put 555 seats in it & taking the same specifications a B748i would seat about 410.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13735 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45875 times:

I'd also just like to add...

Where's the space gone?!




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User currently offline11Bravo From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1717 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45875 times:

Where's the waterfall and casino?  bouncy 


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User currently onlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45875 times:
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Just a test interior - nothing to do with Singapore Airlines.

Given how secretive airlines are being about their real plans for the A380's interior, SQ wouldn't ever give permssion for Airbus to use their actual planned layout and publish it for their competitors to see...

Same goes for any other A380 customer with the possible exceptions of UPS and FedEx!

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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 45831 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):
Looks like they have some sort of premium economy at 8 abreast on the main deck.

That looks more like Business Class to me. Premium Economy would probably be 7 abreast on the upperdeck.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45743 times:

Yeah, its definately a test interior, you can see positions for 'F T Engineer Station' and 'O F E Engineer Seat' on the lower deck, right where it is on the current test aircraft.

User currently offlineSlz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45723 times:

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 6):
I had the impression this was an experimental cabin to test the aircraft systems and furnishings, not an airline selected cabin.

If you look carefully at the layout diagram, you'll find that on the main deck, right after the cluster of galleys, there is a Flight Engineer Station, including some rest seats for the engineers who will monitor the 5hr test from inside...


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45698 times:

You can also find some flight engineer seats & workstations on the main deck, probably to monitor / carry out tests

The main deck seems not optimal for business class if you don´t want middle seats. Maindeck B zone is most likely economy plus like on ULH SQ A345s.

First class maindeck seats look like the EK´s A340 F seats, lots of room left over.

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User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 38
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45638 times:

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 16):
That looks more like Business Class to me. Premium Economy would probably be 7 abreast on the upperdeck

I assumed the 6 abreast on the upper deck was business class.



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User currently offlineMrMcCoy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 377 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45638 times:

I don't know about you, but my personal lounge is a little smaller than I expected. The two personally-reserved first-class pods are pretty nice, however. Big grin


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User currently offlineRedChili From Norway, joined Jul 2005, 2179 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45638 times:

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 4):
Was SQ planning 4 class all along?



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 6):
Are we absolutely sure this is the configuration selected by SQ?

If you would care to read the article, you would see that this is the Airbus interior, not the SQ interior. This is the interior which Airbus will use for their virtual and real test flights on MSN002, which is going to Etihad, IIRC. I don't believe that SQ would allow Airbus to reveal the secrets of their A380 interior on their test flights. SQ will probably keep that under wraps until the appropriate time.

The article claims that this is a three-class layout, though to me it looks more like a four-class, with first, business and economy on the top deck, and first, economy plus and economy on the lower deck.

Quoting Zvezda (Reply 16):
That looks more like Business Class to me.

In that case, it's a business class with a horrible pitch, just slightly better than economy. To me, the 2-2-2 on the top deck looks more like a typical business class.



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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45602 times:

I like that they have upper deck lavs right over seats. Hope they never have a leak.

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 45576 times:

Detail: row 33abc can be shielded off for medical emergency (someone ill). For people worse then ill room is reserved in the upperdeck rear galley.

25 Post contains images Ikarus2006 : IMO we are looking at a test configuration only. If Singapore Airlines/Airbus would leak some info about their interiors, they would do it in style an
26 Leelaw : Won't First Class passengers seated in "window seats" on the main deck have difficulty looking out the windows?
27 Zvezda : Good point. I wasn't paying attention to the pitch. Shame on me.
28 Kaddyuk : There is an Engineering Station on the A380 however i was under belief that it was in the flight deck, on the rear wall... a Laptop folds down for eng
29 Zeke : Has anyone compared this to the photos of the completed EY interior that was going around last month ? Think someone posted them on here.
30 GQfluffy : Looking at that...I don't hear the "MOOOOO" of a cattle hauler. I'm sure that will change... Thanks for finding that diagram...
31 Centrair : On the upper deck, in front of the lounge, what is the space for? (Above the Flight deck) It says E.E. Bay and what looks like J.F.E. It looks like th
32 Post contains links and images WingedMigrator : One possible explanation is that they're trying out an F configuration destined for the upper deck (5.28 m usable width, instead of 6.30 m downstairs
33 ChrisNH : I have a hard time rationalizing all this talk about 'jazzy this' and 'jazzy that.' When the widebody first was introduced--747s followed by the DC-10
34 Leelaw : Actually, the coach and first class "lounges" (in the case of AA "piano bars") were added during the "energy crisis" of the early seventies (circa 19
35 Willyj : Obviously this is not a configuration any airline would use... 24 First Class seats and 24 business class seats... then the rest premium economy and e
36 Leelaw : If the customer airlines indeed intend to include significant common area amenities like lounges, bars, etc., I don't understand why they wouldn't be
37 A319XFW : The engineers stations are the Flight Test Engineers stations to monitor how everything is behaving during the tests. That's the forward avionics bay
38 Post contains images PanAm747LHR : There's also a "possible" Virgin Atlantic config that has been uploaded at V-Flyer.com. I'm sure the actual Virgin configuration will be quite differe
39 A319XFW : Looks like the Premium Economy won't be having any lavs. Or will they have to use the economy ones?
40 Lapper : No, they'll have to hold it all the way!
41 Zvezda : That's enough to make it clear that this is not a configuration developed by VS.
42 Post contains images Keesje : Lots of lay-out have circulated during the last 5 years, I think the MSN02 is the first real one. The different seat / cabin lay-outs have no other us
43 Post contains images Ardian : Have you got a link or something? I'm very curious In the crewrest area there are three bunks above each other!
44 Revelation : My $0.02: I'm glad we're oohing and ahhing about a real deployed cabin layout (granted, just a test one, but anyway..) instead of a bunch of kegs fil
45 Leelaw : I suppose anything compared to a water keg is exciting. To my taste it looks like the same old cattle car expanded to 474 seats, spread over two deck
46 Post contains images Zvezda : To savor the disembarkation experience longer.
47 Max999 : I agree that there would probably be no difference for a Y passenger traveling on a similarly configured 747 vs A380. However, SQ and a few other A38
48 Leelaw : Perhaps that's the plan, nevertheless, even the "spectacular" needs to be tested and certified, and it doesn't look like anything close to spectacula
49 Finkenwerder : Correct ! This is shelf/storage space and also contains foot level A/C ducting No you can see perfectly well outside...
50 Leelaw : Does this mean that "First Class" passengers will be allowed to bring more and larger carry-on baggage aboard A380s so configured, as storage space p
51 Finkenwerder : I think you'll need to ask the airlines this one.. True I wouldn't recommend it to someone who wants to do a lot of photographing through the window.
52 Aviator27 : I think there is some confusion about the configuration of the A380. I count six (6) different classes of seat configurations. This isn't apparent at
53 Post contains images Propulsion : I feel cheated. No Swimming Pool, no waterfall, no gym, no showers, no casino, no library, not even a DVT avoidance area for passengers to linger arou
54 RedChili : The first sleeper seats are obviously first class seats. No airline operates anything which is above first class. And the six-abreast is typical busi
55 Post contains links Leelaw : Pictures: First images of Airbus A380 safety briefing and evacuation card Airbus has released photographs of the 'virtual first flight' of the A380 it
56 Post contains links Leelaw : Full scale cabin test and 10,000 flight cycles fatigue test a success for Airbus A380 programme 10 May 2006 Airbus reached two major test milestones i
57 Bh4007 : Is that 15 emergency exits?
58 Post contains images Lightsaber : First, thank you for posting the layouts, very interesting. I agree, this must be a test configuration. Neither of the two seating diagrams shown have
59 Post contains images Ikramerica : I like how they are testing F suites on both decks. At first glance, one would assume you can't do 4 abreast F suites on the upper deck, but this sho
60 BoeingBus : LOL... the saddest of all... is that this very conventional seat plan is what Airbus complained to begin with when they publicly admitted to the A380
61 Zvezda : The optimistic estimate is that SQ takes delivery of the first one at the end of November with first revenue service at the end of December.
62 Glideslope : At 474 seats there is no way an operator is going to turn a profit. IMO, operators will need 550+ to earn anything.
63 Ikramerica : I would expect most carriers to do an all premium upper deck (F/J/Y+) or do J and Y+ upstairs with a small F downstairs and the rest Y. The plane len
64 Post contains images Lightsaber : Thank you. That is, in my opinion, a little optimistic (by maybe two months). I just hope the first one gets to LAX before March 2007! (I go on TDY f
65 Post contains images Hb88 : Cheated? Holy moly, get over yourself! Meanwhile, back here on planet earth... what you're looking at is the test configuration. The ultimate interio
66 Leelaw : IIRC, "In and Out" won't be the spot because the A380 will not be landing on RWY 24R; isn't LAX only upgrading RWY 25L for A380 operations?[Edited 20
67 Post contains images PlaneHunter : So you suggest the managers of some of the world's premium airlines are totally clueless by not installing 550 seats? By checking these airlines' his
68 Jacobin777 : Max999, SQ will also be introducing their new products on the 777-300ER's also....the only difference I would see is more "playing" space on the A380
69 Zvezda : That's the rule of thumb for Y. F and C need more WCs because people are paying to not have to wait.
70 Max999 : Thanks for the reminder, I had forgotten that both will have the new premium classes.
71 Pelican : Is there a chance that MSN002 will be the A380 which comes to the ILA? I would love to see the interior there. pelican
72 Post contains images Ikarus2006 : Just a note regarding the comment of Ikramerica and Jacobin777. While I think it makes sense that SQ will adopt some features developed for the A380 a
73 RedChili : 474 seats? Is this the Aalto E-474 from Flightplan? Actually, in my experience, the biggest problem with disembarkation is the traffic jam in the usua
74 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : I agree with you there...I've put myself on SQ's "be on the first flight contest"..if that what it was.. .. will be interesting to compare it to SQ's
75 Post contains images Ikramerica : I was going to suggest this as well. SQ say they are doing the same on both, but that doesn't mean the A380 F section won't be a bit better than the
76 Zvezda : It doesn't have longer aisles than any other passenger jet. I think you'll have a bottleneck at the doors except at the very few airports where three
77 RedChili : My mistake. I meant to write "wider aisles." In my experience from twin-aisle airplanes, that's probably true. But generally speaking, I would prefer
78 Max999 : It's also entirely possible that SQ will keep the A380 first class lounge that we see in the test configuration. The SQ 773ER will probably not have
79 747LUVR : I would personally like to see a lounge area, with duplicate cockpit-type windows above the flight deck, to have the same birds eye view as the pilots
80 Zvezda : It would add weight and aerodynamic drag, but it would be very cool.
81 Sangas : Looks to me like this area will function more as a waiting area for the lavs than a proper lounge, especially with the stairwell in the middle.
82 Revelation : I wonder how they arranged to generate the maximum stress on the sanitation systems? Maybe the Airbus employees were served knockwurst and beer?
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