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Airlines Try Smarter Boarding -Wired Article  
User currently offlineTPEcanuck From Taiwan, joined Oct 2005, 89 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

Hey everyone,

Here's some insight into the ever eventful boarding cattle call process. Near the end it also has some insight in the A380 boarding process.

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70689-0.html?tw=rss.technology

Darren

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User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

When I flew HP last year, this process really annoyed me. I had an aisle seat and by the time I got on the plane, there was no room in the overheads. I think this will only work well if there is some way to "reserve" overhead bins for certain rows so that there is still some room left when the passengers on the aisles get there.

At least on the back-to-front method, you are boarding with the rest of the people in your row, so you have an "equal" shot at getting space in the bin.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 1):
I think this will only work well if there is some way to "reserve" overhead bins for certain rows so that there is still some room left when the passengers on the aisles get there.

I'd love to see the enforcement of that.

Quoting BDL2DCA (Reply 1):
At least on the back-to-front method, you are boarding with the rest of the people in your row, so you have an "equal" shot at getting space in the bin.

Except for the folks that always put their carry-ons right at the front of coach no matter where they are sitting. I've seen stewardesses fuss at folks for doing that and making them take their bag to their seat.



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4865 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1394 times:

Good idea! too often pax are boarded in an aisle seat then they have to get up blocking the aisle so that the other pax can get to their seats... back and window seats first please!  Smile


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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

United changed its boarding last year. Rather than back to front, they board window, center then aisle seats. Of course that's after first class and frequent flyers take their sweet time getting settled (oblivious to the fact that there's a jetway full of people behind them). Many frequent flyers like aisle seats, so the boarding process is still delayed when these people have to get up to let in the window seat people. Until United decides to inconvenience its frequent flyers, its boarding process will still be slow.

User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

This reminds me of an experience I had flying NW one time. Everything out of DTW was delayed. There was a line of thunderstorms that basically extended from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico and so no flights flying east could get out.

My 5pm departure to DCA was delayed and it was closer to 9pm before we were boarding. The gate agent made the following announcement.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we have good news and bad news. The good news is your plane is here and crewed. The bad news is the pilots are going to time out if we do not close the aircraft door in 10 minutes. We are going to board three rows at a time. We apologize to our first class and elite passengers but we will have no preboarding for this flight. Miss the call for your row and you're not going to make it on the plane. We'll start by boarding rows 22, 23 and 24..."

I got myself settled in row 12 when it was called. The last few people were still standing in the aisle taking their sweet time stowing things in the overhead when the gate agent came over the PA again... "Ladies and Gentlemen, you have 60 seconds to get in your seat with your seatbelt fastened and your carryons stowed or else this plane is not going to get off the ground."

I swear it was like cockroaches scurrying when you turn on a light. The next thing you know, the aisle was clear and the entire 319 was seated.

"Thank you for your cooperation tonight, Ladies and Gentlemen. Good night and have a safe flight."

Sometimes, I wish every flight would board that way...



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User currently offlineBDL2DCA From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 2):

I'd love to see the enforcement of that.

Hence the quotes. I never see that happening. I do think the airlines should make an effort to keep the first bin in each cabin free for folks seated at the bulkhead though.



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5454 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Scientifically, random, open boarding is the most efficient believe it or not. Southwest is not true random, since it is still done in groups.

Studies have all shown effiencies in back-to-front, Wilma (window-middle-aisle), and random, BUT these are meaningless when just one person holds up 30 people by standing in the aisle trying to get their 50lb "carry-on" into the overhead.

All the time we have human beings in the boarding process...it matters little what technique is used.

One simple way of expediting the boarding process is my making announcements, as the previous poster mentioned.

Also...until airlines enforce their own carry-on rules ... little will change.


Jimbo



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