TriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4685 posts, RR: 47 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4792 times:
Expect a lot more flying from MRS to Morocco in the short- and to Tunisia and Algeria in the long term (once there should be an open skies agreement with these two countries). What other LCC will jump on the ethnic travel bandwaggon?
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4780 times:
The focus in the South of France ( exception Nice and Carcassonne..) are the mediterrannean regions.
Historically people here feel less "gaulois " but rather latin and that reflects in the relation of families,travel and business.
North Africa is by far the most important travel destination from Marseille,and even in other smaller cities in the south of France people tend to make vaccation in Morocco,Tunisia or Antilles rather than in Turkey,Bahamas or Mallorca.
Fact is that many French don't speak any foreign language and spending time in Marrakech is easy and convneient for them for many reasons.
Languedoc has a large spanish population which would use MRS for cheap flights to Spain.
HBDAN From Switzerland, joined Jan 2006, 661 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4780 times:
The article states following points:
- Important announcement regarding the low-cost developement in France
- FR has been looking to MRS as a base already since Jan 2006
- During Sept 2006, the new low cost terminal in MRS will be ready
- A FR expantion could bring 50 daily rotations in MRS
- A destination in Africa (Marocco) is very likely to be served
Rwy32R From France, joined Aug 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4757 times:
Quoting HBDAN (Reply 1): Currently MRS is only linked to DUB and PIK... I would expect at least 6 or 7 new routes to make it a base!
Yes,today MRS is only linked to DUB and PIK! But The works to build a new low cost terminal are currently in progress.
Ryanair expects to operate 50 daily flights per day after the opening of this terminal in September 2006.
The low cost market grows slowly in MRS:
Bristol by Easyjet from July 2006
Brussels by Virgin Express (operated by SNBA)
Cologne by HLX.COM
Dublin by Ryanair and Aer Lingus
Glasgow by Ryanair
Liverpool by Easyjet
London Gatwick by Easyjet
Marrakech by Atlas blue
Munich by Condor
Rwy32R From France, joined Aug 2005, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4732 times:
Quoting Joost (Reply 7): Is there any reason why Ryanair or easyJet don't fly STN-MRS yet?
Don't remenber exactly but I guess Stansted has been the first low cost destination from MRS.The route was operated by Buzz a few years ago and stopped when Buzz merged into Ryanair.
Buzz also operated the Brest-MRS-Brest route.
Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4732 times:
Quoting Joost (Reply 7): Is there any reason why Ryanair or easyJet don't fly STN-MRS yet? I would imagine it's a very likely route. And for Ryanair, usually routes are started from STN first before PIK.
Ryanair stopped STN-MRS after they took over Buzz.
Both Ryannair and Easyjet are expanding in Marseilles and that's great news for the airport! They definitly have some potential on the North Africa netwok but I am a bit concerned about security with Ryannair... We'll have to wait of course that the routes open first!
I didn't know the new terminal would be fitted with an International (ie: NOT European) Customs Area.
I also hope they link Scandinavia with Marseilles, apart from Coppenhaggen there is no flight going to this area!
RJ100 From Russia, joined Nov 2000, 4107 posts, RR: 33 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4627 times:
Basel-Mulhouse airport (which is a public French institution) has made a tariff system that benefits new airlines opening new routes and transporting high volumes. This should be an incentive for low cost carriers to operate into the airport.
This does NOT include direct payments made by the airport. The thing is that you can chose between an old (and less comfortable) terminal, which is cheaper, and the new terminal (more comfortable) but which is a bit more expensive. Also you get a reduced tariff on passenger fees the more passengers an airline brings to the airport.
From this tariff ALL the airlines can benefit. In fact Air France already benefits from it since they are number two after easyJet at the airport in terms of passengers transported. Further, Air France does not pay a single Euro in landing taxes (for the first year, and a reduced tariff in the second year) for the recently started new routes from Basel-Mulhouse to Toulouse and Bordeaux.
BUT, Air France sued the airport for discrimination. The provincial court in Strasbourg decided that it is discrimination so the airport does need to make a new tariff system. This is simply silly because it is no discrimination! Also it is in direct contradiction to European law (which in case "Charleroi" made a clear decision that supports the tariff system of Basel-Mulhouse airport). So most likely we will see another case but sure the European commission will decide in favour of Basel-Mulhouse in the end.
Now since I know Ryanair, they do not only get a good tariff system, they will most likely get direct payment from the airport organisation in Marseille. A court case will follow I am sure. Air France does not accept any competition and gets backed by most of the governmental institutions in France (slot coordination, judges etc.).
But thankfully there is the European commission in the end which will decide in favour of the consumer, in favour of more competition and in favour of the future of air travel (LCCs).
Beaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 26 Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4387 times:
With Fez,Marrakech and Oujda Ryanair will become a major player in the Moroccan aviation scene...
There will be much,much more passengers flying to and from maghreb countries once the tarif system has been liberalized.
AF and RAM will defenitely feel the heat but the countries involved ( I assume Tunisia will follow soon..) will feel the benefit from an increasing number of vistors.
Adriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 493 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4321 times:
Quoting Rom1 (Reply 14): I also hope they link Scandinavia with Marseilles
Looks like Oslo (Torp) is going to be linked with the suny south of France. Good news for Marseille and also for north africa. I wonder when/if FR will launch UK-Morocco flights? Anyway, great to see expansion making our continent better connected.
25 Rottamo: Easyjet will start 4 July 2006 London Gatwick to Marrakech Rottamo
26 Beaucaire: http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....r=06&month=may&story=rte-en-100506 RYANAIR SELECTS MARSEILLE AS ITS 16th EUROPEAN BASE 13 NEW ROUTES FROM NOVEM
27 Joost: I had a closer look at the schedule and it seems that at some instances it has a pretty high on-ground time at MRS, does anybody know why? Aircraft 1:
28 Icarus75: MRS is far from being in Languedoc!!! Large spanish population in Languedoc should preferably use Carcassonne!!!
29 Beaucaire: Icarus75 - I recognise that Languedoc stretches from Narbonne to Beaucaire- but there is still a large untapped potential for cheap flights from Nîme
30 Planesarecool: That is often the case at their bases. For example, at Stansted and Dublin, a lot of aircraft will spend 1hr+ on the ground, where as others will spe
31 YULMRS: Oh yes !!!!!!! They did it. The new low cost terminal seems to be a good investment. The new terminal will have 6 gates and 3.5 million PAX capacity,
32 Beaucaire: In today's edition of "La Provence" MOL is quoted indicating that MRS will see about 5 planes within three years. That would mean roughly 3 Million Pa
33 Runway23: Me thinks MP2 and MRS airport have some geography problems: http://www.mp2.aeroport.fr/destinati...cost_aeroport_mp2.htm?destination7 "Le Brandebourg
34 KL911: Joost, It IS my lucky day, haha. Booked immediately 10-12 November although not for the cheapest 0.01 euro fare that you will find later on. Just had
35 YULMRS: I hope FlyBe will do. I don't see them based in NCE because of EZY and in MRS because of FR, but may be TLS, BOD (very few low cost flights for such
36 Icarus75: Higher then MRS? I was a little surprise to see FR opening a base in MRS, an airport quite big.
37 Joost: Is this an issue for Algerian people living in France? Do they have Algerian passports? (can one have 2 passports when living in France?) When it is
38 YULMRS: In this thread we talk a lot about service from France to northern Africa, but i think we forgot to talk about Aigle Azur, they offer cheap services f
39 AlanUK: You're confused. It was over Strasbourg Airport that Air France took legal action against the Alsace region authorities for giving Ryanair large sums
40 HBDAN: RJ100 is referring in his post about INDIRECT benefits LCC can be given by airports. Taking the example of BSL, he explained how landing/handling/par