MANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2727 times:
Quoting Pilotjm (Reply 1): never heard of that where did you get this info
I've literally just read this myself. It's in this month's edition of Airliner World Magazine. Just says that they are purchasing 3 ex-VS A343s to launch long-haul ops to the states. Would think they would try JFK or EWR first, perhaps ORD as well or even IAD.
FCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2347 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2629 times:
Do not know which Virgin A340s they will receive , but for sure it will not be G-VFLY , as it will be in the Finnair fleet next year.
Stunning great news to know some more color scheme will be seen on the A340.A so elegant plane.
Bahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1727 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
It's been in the Turkish press on and off for about 6 months. I remember reading something on Hurriyet last Nov. about it, including some flights to Far East. I flew them AYT-IST last April and their A320 was in great condition and packed big time.
They lost a lot of market on the Turkish expat flying because of Oeger pull out; but they look like doing a pretty good job flying their own pax. Interestingly enough they had a lot of connecting pax to places in other parts of Turkey.
I think Atlas is a very good company and fills the gap that has been void since 1990 left by Istanbul Airlines.
While the deal is not done yet, Atlasjet is working on securing Turkish traffic rights to initially serve one US destination and one Far-East destination. A second follow on US city along with other global destination's are being considered.
Unfortunately, Atlasjet at the moment somewhat finds itself in a little power vacuum following German tour operator Oger selling out its share in the company to ETS of Turkey. As a result much of the carrier plans have come under review as certain marketing assumptions particularly to Europe have changed.
Also tourism arrivals in Turkey have been off the first few months primarily a result of Bird Flu fears which does not help either.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 4): they would be a viable competitor to TK and DL on the IST-NYC route.
Anyone here on this thread would fly them on the US-IST route? I doubt it. They need some kind of a mileage partner to make this work. I really don't think that there is a market for a third carrier on the route. Even DL growing like crazy in Europe left IST out of its radar.
Gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1098 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2297 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 10): Anyone here on this thread would fly them on the US-IST route? I doubt it. They need some kind of a mileage partner to make this work. I really don't think that there is a market for a third carrier on the route. Even DL growing like crazy in Europe left IST out of its radar.
US-IST route will be filled by bargain hunters both US pax and the Turkish population in USA.
As far as DL's expansion-or lack thereof in the case of IST- believe it or not a DL exec said to me that DL wanted to the ATL-IST flight yet the DL execs in IST weren't sure if they would be profitable in ATL-IST like they are profitable in JFK-IST. His words not mine pretty interesting to say the least.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2092 times:
Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 11): DL exec said to me that DL wanted to the ATL-IST flight yet the DL execs in IST weren't sure if they would be profitable in ATL-IST like they are profitable in JFK-IST.
DL's loads on JFK-IST would be affected if they were to open the ATL-IST. And also there were some concerns on another thread about if DL had the right equipment, if the 763 would do the job, if there were enough of them with all the other European routes opening up. Right now while they are battling CO over who is the biggest NY-Europe carrier of them all, DL is running print ads. saying "Bigger is still better" to Europe, meaning their 767,777 as opposed to the CO's 757s.
Back to Atlas, Far East seems more profitable, but still it still is a big plane to fill.
By the way, their website is not that user friendly, lot of stuff is missing.