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USA3000 Airlines --- Thoughts?  
User currently offlineMkirch72 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 198 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

I live near the St. Pete/Clearwater Int'l Airport (PIE) where the only current domestic US carrier is USA3000 (U5 I believe). They serve seven cities out of PIE and I've flown them several times and have had nothing but a good experience.

They seem to be a very quiet company however because little to nothing can be found online regarding their financial performance.

I know they still do charters for Apple Vacations, but their scheduled service seems to be increasing and their fares are fairly low --- as little as $69 each way, no rondtrip purchase requirement, no advance purchase timeframe, etc.

My question is -- how are they doing financially? How are they able to offer such low fares? Did they hedge their fuel purchases?

What do you all think in general about U5 and it's future?

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12147 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1984 times:
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They actually are owned by Apple Vacations! The reason for all the Florida flights is to have the planes do something when they are not flying charter flights for parent comapny Apple Vacations.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9262 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

They only fly one aircraft as well, and I don't think that they have that many aircraft. The aircraft they use are A320s... I think that may have something to do wth it...


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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting Mkirch72 (Thread starter):
They seem to be a very quiet company however because little to nothing can be found online regarding their financial performance.

As Luv2fly noted, USA3000 is actually a part of Apple Vacations, and as both USA3000 and Apple Vacations are privately held, there is no requirement for them to disclose their financial information, so they don't.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 2):
They only fly one aircraft as well, and I don't think that they have that many aircraft. The aircraft they use are A320s.

Yup, they started operations in early 2003 with a pair of leased A320s and now they have 14 of the birds (all leased from quite the alphabet soup: GECAS, ILFC, RBS).

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 1):
The reason for all the Florida flights is to have the planes do something when they are not flying charter flights for parent comapny Apple Vacations.

Actually, they have up to 54 daily scheduled flights, so most of their operations now fall under scheduled service, as opposed to charter.

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12147 posts, RR: 49
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
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Quoting Airwave (Reply 3):
Actually, they have up to 54 daily scheduled flights, so most of their operations now fall under scheduled service, as opposed to charter.

Not totally, as they sell both the charter flights under the usa3000.com web site as a scheduled flight.



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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 4):

Not totally, as they sell both the charter flights under the usa3000.com web site as a scheduled flight.

Hmm, interesting. Didn't realize that was the case. Thanks for the info.

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User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3047 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

They like using UK Charter airlines A320's during the winter months...

When I arrived at PHL on a flight from LGW with US Airways last year there was a pair of Thomas Cook Airlines A320's on lease to USA 3000, and had flown earlier that year on both of those A320's from LGW-JSI!

Monarch Airlines and First Choise Airways have also leased them aircraft.


User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

They seem to have billboards all over Ft. Myers and Cape Coral advertising $69 one ways to the six cities they fly out of RSW.

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5289 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 4):
Not totally, as they sell both the charter flights under the usa3000.com web site as a scheduled flight.

Well...actually what happens is that they know that their package vacation customers have a preference for "scheduled" service, so they provide "scheduled" service on their own aircraft and put the public and their own customers on those flights.

There are also "public charters" sold on the usa3000.com site that are not sked service and operate under different FAA rules.

There are probably relatively-few strictly-package-charter flights operated by usa3000. No reason to do it when you can make it a public charter and fill the empty seats through a different marketing channel.

[Edited 2006-05-11 21:32:25]

User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4927 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1623 times:

The USA3000 route map clearly identifies the scheduled and public charter flights if anyone is interested


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