Congaboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 3 Posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10392 times:
Was checking out the pictures of the new livery for Go! on this site, and saw that the aircraft picture was taken in PHX. It then occured to me, "how is this thing going to make it to Hawaii?". Looking up the stats here on airliners.net, I found the following:
100 - High speed cruise 851km/h (459kt), typical cruising speed 786km/h (424kt). Range with max payload at long range cruising speed with reserves 1815km (980nm).
200LR - Speeds same. Range with max payload at long range cruising speed and reserves over 3713km (2005nm).
ANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10366 times:
Maybe they will fly from SFO, which is closer (you check it out - true!). The ranges that you are quoting are for normal operations - a flight with nothing but two pilots and some extra fuel will have longer legs.
Congaboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 352 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10232 times:
Quoting ANother (Reply 2): Maybe they will fly from SFO, which is closer (you check it out - true!).
Yea, you're right...I have 2395 miles. So empty, with extra tanks, and slightly shorter hop, they make it. The installation and de-installation has to be rather costly, considering the down-time...and multiplied by what, maybe 10 aircraft?
Bluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3139 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9906 times:
HA, AQ, and WP use ferry tanks inside the fuselage to bring their inter-island fleet to Hawaii, as shown in the photo above. The seats are shipped separately.
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8259 times:
HA had the seats placed in the cargo pits during delivery flights. They were never shipped separately, IIRC.
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Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7773 times:
Quoting 777STL (Reply 1): My guess would be in-cabin fuel tanks as QF did with their 717s.
Actually, the Impulse/Qantaslink 717s took the long way to Australia, flying hops up the west coast of North America, across the Bering Strait, and down Asia to Australia.
TropicBird From United States of America, joined May 2005, 502 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4460 times:
The last word I heard was that this coming week, the first aircraft will ferry to Hawaii via SFO (refueling at Signature Aviation). The following week will be the next 2 and the week after will have the last 2 (for a total of 5). And yes they will have auxiliary fuel tanks installed.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4362 times:
Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 19): The new plan is to send the aircraft via FedEx......this way, they aircraft will arrive in Hawaii by 1000am the next morning, guaranteed.
LMAO! That is funny!
What if the tanks failed? Please tell me they have the no smoking sign on during the flight??!!
I guess it would be a bad day if there was an onboard fire. YIKES!!
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3033 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
Quoting Srbmod (Reply 16): Actually, the Impulse/Qantaslink 717s took the long way to Australia, flying hops up the west coast of North America, across the Bering Strait, and down Asia to Australia.
Yeah I was thinking of HA's birds as in the pictures.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4245 times:
Quoting PPVRA (Reply 23): Those tanks look like they are barely narrow enough to get through the door...
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Good point. They look too long to get even into the cabin. Does the 717 have tail stairs? Excuse me not knowing the 717 all that well, as we don't ever see them here in the NW.
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25 Ha763: I have personally seen the tanks at the HA maintenance hangar and they are not that big. They are close to the width of the L1 door, but are only abo
26 USXguy: that is definitely going to be a NONSMOKING flight!
27 Congaboy: Thanks for the info...and look what happened on this thread, we actually had a good time! Great humor!
28 L1329II: Ok... I have a really stupid question but since this thread has started I just have to ask. If there are any single engine planes in Hawaii, how did t
29 4everRC: out of all the options we've given in this thread, I would say the best option would be FedEx.
30 Richierich: There are lots of single engine planes in HA. Most of them are brought over on cargo ships. Unlike an airline ordering a new fleet of expensive jets,
31 Arffguy: Actually there are several companies around the world that fly smaller planes across long distances with fuel tanks placed in the cabin. Jon Johanson
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