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First Flight On ATL Runway 10-28 Is A DL 777  
User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8916 times:

A DL Newswire release states the first aircraft to land on ATL's new runway 10-28 will be a Delta 777 cleverly given the flight number....1028. Not sure what the departure airport would be yet. Should be some good info for those out there that may be wanting to post the first pic on a.net of an aircraft landing there.


While in Orlando this week meeting with more than 5,000 travel and tourism professionals, Jerry Grinstein, CEO, was asked about the industry and how airlines were doing.

"More specifically, the question was whether rising air fares and shrinking capacity are providing a cure for our ailing industry. Unfortunately, continued high fuel prices mean the short answer to that question is 'no,' " said Grinstein in his weekly employee update.

"Recent fare increases are needed and welcomed, but they fall far short of neutralizing rising fuel's impact on our bottom line. As a result, our industry remains vulnerable and the steps Delta is taking to reduce costs and increase revenue remain more important than ever," he said.

Next week Delta is participating in the opening of the fifth runway at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport.

"This 9,000 foot feat of engineering includes the world's longest runway bridge, spanning 10 lanes of interstate traffic. Some of those trucks are going be going faster than our planes," he said. "On behalf of everyone at Delta, I'm proud to say the first aircraft to touch down as part of the May 16 inaugural will be a Delta 777 – Delta flight 1028 arriving on Atlanta runway 10-28. I wanted you to appreciate how clever everyone is here!"

Grinstein said peak arrivals at Hartsfield-Jackson are expected to grow from 100 planes an hour to 135. The additional capacity is a benefit to Delta and our customers by improving on-time performance and expanding our international network.

Grinstein also mentioned our international expansion. "You also have probably seen a number of billboards and advertisements featuring our International destinations," he said. "I'd love to get your reactions to those; we are pushing them hard and they're having a remarkable impact."



OttoPylit

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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 8834 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Thread starter):
Not sure what the departure airport would be yet.

ATL-ATL. I nice flight around the city. Tickets are going fast.



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8797 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 1):
ATL-ATL. I nice flight around the city. Tickets are going fast.

this a joke?



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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8793 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 2):
this a joke?

Well the part of about tickets. The flight does depart ATL with DL and City officials and lands on the new runway.



It's a big building with patients, but that's not important right now.
User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8726 times:

ATL city as well as federal officials. An hour or so for a tour of the city of Atlanta is never money wasted when the top government officials in your industry and city are onboard. DL's getting almost as polished politically as AA.

User currently offlineASApilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8667 times:

This will be neat. It really shows that Delta is Atlanta's Airline. I hope I have to work that day. Great post OttoPylot!

User currently offlineAileron11 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8614 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Thread starter):
"This 9,000 foot feat of engineering includes the world's longest runway bridge, spanning 10 lanes of interstate traffic

I would like to see some pictures of the runway if it really spans 10 lanes of interstate. Can you imagine all the distracted drivers.



Jersey Lou
User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8577 times:

It also shows how hard it is to add concrete to existing airports.

I can't wait til the 1st summer thunderstorm to see how the new runway changes the airports ability to recover. And 3 lines of arriving or departing flights will be just beautiful!


User currently offlineVulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 8407 times:

Exactly what day will this happen?

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 8357 times:

Nice to hear that, would sure love to witness that landing.

Quoting Aileron11 (Reply 6):
I would like to see some pictures of the runway if it really spans 10 lanes of interstate. Can you imagine all the distracted drivers.

Well, the a.net database is full of airport overviews of ATL  Wink .

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 7):
I can't wait til the 1st summer thunderstorm to see how the new runway changes the airports ability to recover. And 3 lines of arriving or departing flights will be just beautiful!

Indeed, the runway will definitely help ease up things at ATL. And I can only agree, the site of 3 lines of 5-10 planes hanging in the air waiting for landing will be amazing, especially at night.


User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8269 times:

see the following regarding the 5th runway, including timelines.

http://www.atlanta-airport.com/fifth/


User currently offlineASApilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8144 times:

Quoting Aileron11 (Reply 6):
I would like to see some pictures of the runway if it really spans 10 lanes of interstate. Can you imagine all the distracted drivers.

It's very distracting. It is pretty much a tunnel, I mean, that's what it feels like when you drive under it. My passengers (in the car) never even know what we are going under on the way to the airport, but everyone will know soon.


User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1630 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

I think it would be really neat to see the runway after the first flight, with one set of 14 tire marks on it. Wink

-N243NW



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7530 times:

Quoting Aileron11 (Reply 6):
I would like to see some pictures of the runway if it really spans 10 lanes of interstate. Can you imagine all the distracted drivers.

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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4050 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7530 times:

ATL along with DFW, ORD and DEN are the 4 best airports in the lower 48 of the USA to operate a major hub out of geographically speaking when O&D are related to site and situation in the entire country. ATL being situated between Florida and the rest of the heavily populated eastern seaboard as well as the Caribbean make it a clear choice to operate such a mega hub from. The growth in Florida and the SE USA on the whole clearly have dictated that ATL supersede ORD in passenger traffic by the late 1990s as was the case. Question is with growth in this region expected further, where will ATL locate a 6th runway? Do they go north, or do they find a way to double-up 10-28 with another 9,000'+ ribbon?  idea 


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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7196 times:

The city of Atlanta agreed not to pursue a 6th runway for at least a significant period of time... not sure how long... in return for the communities surrounding the airport releasing objectives to the 5th runway. At one time, there was talk of putting a 6th runway north of DL's headquarters but that would displace a huge amount of current development. When you consider that the 5th runway cost over 1 billion dollars, there is diminishing value for each successive mile of concrete since the only real value comes come triple simultaneous operations. A runway that would permit triple operations like the 5th would have to be entirely south of I-285 to keep from having one end or the other on the interstate (I 285 is the interstate that the 5th crosses) which could make taxi times prohibitively long.

Given that ATL has become the world's busiest airport w/ just 4 runways, there should be significant capacity added w/ the 5th that allows ATL to get about as big as a hub airport can be. DL and its partners have around 1000 flights/day while FL has another 200 plus all of the non-hub passenger carriers and the freight carriers.

I don't think you'll see ATL ever grow to the size where 6 runways are necessary. By the time it could happen, technology could be available that automates enough of the flight process to increase capacity with the existing runways.

Also, remember that ATL is one of the largest cities in the US that has only 1 commercial airport serving the city. The economics of converting one of the other airports in the area to commercial service are far more favorable than further runway expansion at Hartsfield.


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4050 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6688 times:

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 15):
Given that ATL has become the world's busiest airport w/ just 4 runways, there should be significant capacity added w/ the 5th that allows ATL to get about as big as a hub airport can be. DL and its partners have around 1000 flights/day while FL has another 200 plus all of the non-hub passenger carriers and the freight carriers.

I don't think you'll see ATL ever grow to the size where 6 runways are necessary. By the time it could happen, technology could be available that automates enough of the flight process to increase capacity with the existing runways.

As I recall the Hartsfield-Jackson (ATL) master-plan calls for extending one of the 4 existing runways to over 13,300.' Runway 27R-9L has been designated for this extension in order to accommodate even an A380 (although the airport has indicated no plans to accept that a/c as of yet) on a hot and humid summer Georgia day. Have they started on this implementation of the master plan as of yet at ATL? If so, what will also need to be displaced?
http://www.atlmasterplan.com/recommended_plan.htm



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User currently offlineRetaf98 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6409 times:

Word I keep hearing from DL pilots is that one of the other 4 actives will shut down this summer for "work" of some sort--they (DL pilots) are not anticipating any increased capacity at ATL for quite some time.

User currently offlineAndrewUber From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2528 posts, RR: 40
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6364 times:

10/28 is going to be one hell of a taxi away from the terminal. Traffic on the 27's will have to hold for 10/28 traffic to cross, only to have another mile or two to go before departure. While I'm sure it's very well thought out and will increase capacity, I also believe it will have little impact on on-time statistics.

I'm also curious why the "kink" is in the taxiway. Was there no way to build it straight?

Drew



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6303 times:

Quoting Aileron11 (Reply 6):
I would like to see some pictures of the runway if it really spans 10 lanes of interstate. Can you imagine all the distracted drivers.

- I went through that long tunnel on I-285 a few months ago, it is 10 lanes of traffic but actually wider than that. It is probably one of the most unique tunnels I have ever been through.

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 14):
where will ATL locate a 6th runway? Do they go north,

- I do not believe a sixth runway is in the plan but if they do, it will parallel the other five.

Quoting Retaf98 (Reply 17):
Word I keep hearing from DL pilots is that one of the other 4 actives will shut down this summer for "work" of some sort--they (DL pilots) are not anticipating any increased capacity at ATL for quite some time.

- I have heard that also, believe it is one of the current runways north of the terminals. I think I heard that here on A.Net.

David



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User currently offlinePar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7135 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

I think DL should have used a 764 or a 763 instead of the 777, an a/c which really is a symbol of DL, heck they should have kept the Spirit of Delta around just for this flight.
The 777 is the top a/c in most airlines fleets, not to DL, in my opinion, because they chose not to buy more, I'm not questioning their reasons, just that the precious few that they have is deliberate, not because the a/c is so "precious"

All in all it should be good for DL and the ATL airport, so far it does not mirror ORD in system crisis when the weather spikes, but some days it sure does come close.


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4748 posts, RR: 45
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6282 times:

Why did they leave exposed space between the taxi-way and the runway where the cars pass by?


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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6203 times:

Quoting Par13del (Reply 20):
so far it does not mirror ORD in system crisis when the weather spikes,

- It will be interesting to see how ORD's flights will be when they reconfigure the airfield and have all parallel runways. I talked with an AA pilot friend of mine tonight and word is Chicago is going to make all the runways parallel east and west.

David



Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

It'll be nice to see a pic of DL aircraft landing on the 10-28 runway.

However, IMO, the runway should be used for small aircraft (Boeing 737-900/Airbus A321 and lower) as 9000 feet is pretty short fx. a 747 to land on. Though the most-used runway at my airport is only 3937.1 feet, 9000 feet sounds little for a big airport.  Smile

Funny when someone's driving in the tunnel, and an aircraft lands exactly over you...

-David


User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4050 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6174 times:

Quoting Aero145 (Reply 23):
It'll be nice to see a pic of DL aircraft landing on the 10-28 runway.

However, IMO, the runway should be used for small aircraft (Boeing 737-900/Airbus A321 and lower) as 9000 feet is pretty short fx. a 747 to land on. Though the most-used runway at my airport is only 3937.1 feet, 9000 feet sounds little for a big airport.

Funny when someones driving in the tunnel, and an aircraft lands exactly over you...

This runway was originally only going to be 6,000' to handle CRJ traffic, but the city department of airports argued for an all accommodating length of 9,000.' This will prove to be a smart move in the long runway (No pun intended!)
Actually at 9,000 feet this runway can accommodate any a/c (including the A380 & B748) for landings. Take-offs is why I pointed out above that 27R-9L is to be extended to over 13,300' to accommodate all extended and long range wide-body heavies (especially 767-300ER & 767-400ER as well as 777-200ER&LR and 777-300s & all eventual 787s that DL is likely to add to its fleet) for a departure to some point half a world away such as J-berg in South Africa or Beijing in China.



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25 Evan767 : Will this new runway be used primarily for take-offs or arrivals?(9L/27R is used for takeoffs, 9R/27L is used for landing, 8R/26L is used for takeoffs
26 SLCUT2777 : Mostly as an overflow runway for landings and some departures (mostly DL/Connect CRJ flights), would make the most ATC airfield management sense.
27 Post contains links AAflyguy : Par13del, looks like you got your wish, or someone at DL read your post..haha..here's the link to today's News Release concerning the 1st a/c dep & ar
28 DeltaDC9 : One of my favorte sights is the taxiway overpass going into O'Hare. I always seem to be lucky and see a plane is overhead.
29 ERJ170 : To me, it would have only been appropriate if they had kept the Spirit of Delta and let it make the maiden flight before moth-balling it.. but oh well
30 DeltaMIA : The 777 got stuck in LGW yesterday on a mtc.
31 Post contains links and images AAflyguy : Using the "Spirit of Delta" aircraft would have been just about the best..and to think that it so recently was towed over to the Delta Heritage Museum
32 AAflyguy : DeltaMIA, Seriously? Whoa, talk about foiling a plan! Well, it was meant to happen, I guess. And it's still fitting, since the B767-300ER is the workh
33 Post contains links AAflyguy : Link from the current issue of USA Today about the 5th Runway: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2006-05-15-atlanta-usat_x.htm OK, enough posting
34 767-332ER : I was there...awesome ceremony. N194DN is the bird that did the duties. Air Tran had a 737-700W which had a great looking sticker honoring the "Iwo Ji
35 B777ER : Found this, here you guys go (read below for the disasterous first day at the new ATL tower): The biggest problem confronting controllers is that the
36 AAflyguy : Nice, indeed..or not..some of these are things that probably are associated with projects of this magnitude all the time, yet are not reported by the
37 Gr8SlvrFlt : The first flights occured this morning. Delta 9995 with a 767-300 and AirTran 1028 with a 737-700 (with winglets and Iwo Jima nose art). Flight Attend
38 Positiverate : Anyone know who gthe pilots were on the first flight for Delta?
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