LGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2654 times:
I can't see JetBlue in GYY anytime soon. Have fun convincing the JFK/BOS/IAD business crowd that they should fly into Indiana (Gary, no less) to get to Chicago. The yields will be terrible. JetBlue is waiting for ORD, but I wouldn't be shocked to seem them in MDW either.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4650 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2503 times:
IIRC, Boeing first based its biz jets at MDW, then moved them to GYY due to the delays at MDW.
Also, Chicago and Gary signed an interstate compact, so that some ticket taxes collected on ORD and MDW passengers are used for capital improvement projects at GYY.
As for B6, I've read several times that it wants into ORD, because it feels that ORD needs an LCC, particularly on routes to New York and the L.A. area. MDW already has enough LCC serivce to cities that B6 flies.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2466 times:
JetBlue: Can't see that happening. B6 wants ORD, not MDW and definitely not GYY.
Delta: Could happen, but probably just 2-3x daily CRJ service to ATL (where else?).
Mycrj17 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2276 times:
Who do you think will do the ramp and the ticket counters? Do you think that it would be cheaper for Comair or ASA to do it? Or will Delta have there own people do it?
And will it be CRJ's or MD-80's???
JetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2258 times:
Quoting Mycrj17 (Thread starter): Just heard that GYY is thinking Delta or Jetblue at there city, do you think that will happen? I think that Delta will but not Jetblue
In all honesty, I cannot see JetBlue entering GYY anytime soon, if ever. They have expressed a major interest in ORD, and they have said that they would prefer to not fly out of MDW. I think Delta may get this one, but I wouldn't be surprised if you see B6 in ORD and refuse the offer at GYY.
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Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2241 times:
I think DL has more chance of serving GYY than B6. Besides, if B6 moved in, I'm sure they'd call it Chicago service, but that sounds an awful lot like FR...
Quoting Ckfred (Reply 5): Also, Chicago and Gary signed an interstate compact, so that some ticket taxes collected on ORD and MDW passengers are used for capital improvement projects at GYY.
Interesting. Right now, that's gotta be great for GYY. The question now is, if GYY has regular commercial ops, will it be obligated to return the favor?
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6): Delta: Could happen, but probably just 2-3x daily CRJ service to ATL (where else?).
Of course. Where else would they go? Lol.
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InTheSky74 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 546 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2137 times:
I honestly think that GYY service would be a good start for JetBlue.
They could call the city - GARY/CHICAGO (which technically is the airport name).
I think that this airport would be a good way to get the foot in the door to Chicago. Look how Southwest really improved and brought traffic to PVD, MHT, etc....
JetBlue could do the same with GYY... With 3 jetways, they could have quite a bit of service...
I think that this could possibly be one of the smartest moves JetBlue could make!
N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2076 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 10): I think DL has more chance of serving GYY than B6. Besides, if B6 moved in, I'm sure they'd call it Chicago service, but that sounds an awful lot like FR...
There is a big difference: GYY is closer to the Loop than ORD (Chicago's undisputed primary airport) is.
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JetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 1995 times:
I don't think they want to go into GYY yet. They probably should just work at getting into ORD and than maybe later on they can expand from GYY to places that they can't from ORD due to not enough space or bad times. Or maybe they could kind of just have GYY to compliment ORD service but I think ORD should come first and then maybe GYY later on.
But does that really make sense? What I mean is, if they get into ORD but quickly run out of room to grow (which seems inevitable) and have to move to GYY anyway, wouldn't it just make sense to start from GYY so there are no expansion hiccups along the way or duplication of resources? I know that they've always said they wanted ORD, but I would hope smart decision making from a financial and logistics standpoint would quickly rule this seemingly wasteful duality out.
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N328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6222 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1936 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 15): What I mean is, if they get into ORD but quickly run out of room to grow (which seems inevitable)
Just a couple of days ago, I was driving along Irving Park Road and York Road (which both neighbor ORD) and there were lots of shuttered homes/businesses at the SW corner. Lots of heavy equipment on the east side/NE corner. I don't know if the expansion is in full swing, but it looks like it.
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DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
Why would DL fly into Gary? they have flights into O'Hare, Midway, and South Bend as it is today. What does adding a couple of RJ flights to the wasteland of Gary do for them? If they did do it I'd expect them to be gone within a few months.
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BravoGolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 535 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week ago) and read 1865 times:
Well DeltaGator, I was wondering when someone would start slinging mud. Congratulations on trying to turn a thoughtful thread into a mud fest. There is another thread about an article about GYY in Airport Business Online. The article explains things like GYY being closer to the Loop than ORD and other little facts you are unaware of. Some of the posters in this thread know what is happening in the Chicago area. You Sir, do not.
Mycrj17 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 269 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 18): The article explains things like GYY being closer to the Loop than ORD and other little facts you are unaware of. Some of the posters in this thread know what is happening in the Chicago area. You Sir, do not.
Yep I don't think DeltaGator has ever been to Chicaqo, and with that comment stay in ATL...
And loop to ORD is about 16miles and the loop to GYY is about 55 miles...
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1742 times:
Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 18): Well DeltaGator, I was wondering when someone would start slinging mud. Congratulations on trying to turn a thoughtful thread into a mud fest.
Ok, wasteland was a bad term. I was just posing the question of why Gary given the 3 airports in the nearby area that DL alreay flies into.
Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 18): Some of the posters in this thread know what is happening in the Chicago area. You Sir, do not.
Whatever there chief. I may not know everything about Chicago but I know enough.
Quoting Mycrj17 (Reply 20): Yep I don't think DeltaGator has ever been to Chicaqo, and with that comment stay in ATL...
I've been to Chicago many times. If Gary is so wonderful and provides easy access to the Loop then great. Perhaps I'll consider it. Until someone steps up to the plate and keeps air service there my business will just keep me flying in and out of O'Hare.
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BravoGolf From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 535 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1725 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 22):
Ok, wasteland was a bad term. I was just posing the question of why Gary given the 3 airports in the nearby area that DL alreay flies into.
Apology accepted. SBN is not nearby. It is 66.63 miles and 1 hr 13 min from GYY to SBN per Mapquest. The GYY catchment area (30 min drive time) is 2.5 million!
The city limits of the City of Chicago are actually less than 5 miles from the western boundary of GYY.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
Quoting BravoGolf (Reply 23): Apology accepted. SBN is not nearby. It is 66.63 miles and 1 hr 13 min from GYY to SBN per Mapquest.
No problem. I thought South Bend was closer. I stand corrected.
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25 Mycrj17: But with all of the work they are doing on the expressway(I94) and the work on the skyway it would be easyer to fly into ORD for the next 2-3 years..
26 BravoGolf: It's about time for the hovercraft idea to pop up again. Who knows, it might work.
27 JetBlueAtJFK: Yes I think it does, it is my opiion. They have cities like Oaklnad and San Jose where they are in the same region and they aren't full at one or the
29 Mycrj17: Or maybe both, who knows..It will be Trumps boat or fairy
30 7E72004: I don't think it will happen. I hate to say it but i think Gary has too bad a "rap" when it comes to the city. Whenever someone mentions "Gary" most p
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