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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3054 times:

Just an interesting tidbit of information I was looking at today:

If I haven't missed any airports, AUS squeaks into the top 15 of the most served airports by AA, based on number of flights per day (and its regional affiliates...i.e. no codeshare).

Here are the list of airports ranked ahead of AUS (in no order) as of flights on May 15th:

DFW,ORD,MIA,JFK,LGA,SAN,LAX,BOS,RDU,SJC,SJU,STL,DCA, which puts AUS at 14th.

Is there any more expansion plans for AUS from AA? I know that MIA was served for a while, and it seems last year there were talks of it coming back, but I haven't heard anything. With B6 on JFK with almost no competition (unless you want to count DL  Wink), would that be a route AA might be interested in? What about other routes that are being flown nonstop on other airlines? AA sure does seem like they're interested in stealing any of WN's profit, even if it loses money on their end (see escapade at DAL). Perhaps SAN, or maybe MCO (to compete with DL and WN)?

Just throwing stuff out there, I'm probably being a wishful Austinite.  Wink

Thanks!

Cheers,
Cameron

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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3053 times:

Yep, AA has a huge presence in AUS. Anyone who's gone through Bergstrom on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon knows which airlines basically run the show in the Lone Star State's capital, namely AA and Southwest.

As for expansion, I don't really seen any major opportunities for growth short of maybe, at some point, flying AUS-MIA, but I doubt it would be mainline, and I doubt it will happen anytime in the near future.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 1):
Yep, AA has a huge presence in AUS. Anyone who's gone through Bergstrom on a Monday morning or Friday afternoon knows which airlines basically run the show in the Lone Star State's capital, namely AA and Southwest.

Amen to that.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 1):
As for expansion, I don't really seen any major opportunities for growth short of maybe, at some point, flying AUS-MIA, but I doubt it would be mainline, and I doubt it will happen anytime in the near future.

I doubt it would be mainline, too, perhaps even with a stop at Hobby, but the opportunity would certainly be nice. Sure would be nice if it could get in early enough to the point where I could fly nonstop to SXM from MIA.  Smile

Thanks for the response, Commavia, insightful as always.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

AA appears to be pulling back in domestic markets, not expanding, unless it is on Eagle or to/from MIA, or some goofy experiment like Love. As for AUS, expect on MIA service (eventually) but nothing else.

I always thought AA could do well in AUS buliding it up into a focus city - non-stops to SEA, SFO, MCO, BOS etc. However it is apparent AA is retracting from markets, not adding, so let's not hold our breathes for anything substantial.


User currently offlineJetBlueAUS From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1145 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2914 times:

AA has stopped the AUS-HOU-LGA run haven't they? Isn't that why ATA started the HOU-LGA route?


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 4):
AA has stopped the AUS-HOU-LGA run haven't they? Isn't that why ATA started the HOU-LGA route?

Yes, thats right, JetBlueAUS.

That was AA's connection to NYC from AUS, a direct flight. Same with DCA, a direct flight with a stop in RDU.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 3):
I always thought AA could do well in AUS buliding it up into a focus city - non-stops to SEA, SFO, MCO, BOS etc.

AA would never operate a focus city with flights to all those locations so close to a major hub, especially it's largest single hub, DFW. AA would much rather put people on the 33-minute flight AUS-DFW, where they can easily connect to hundreds of daily flights to cities across the globe. As someone who flies AUS-DFW about twice per month, I can certainly attest to the AUS-DFW flights always being fairly full, and not just in Y, they are also commonly full in F too.

Quoting JetBlueAUS (Reply 4):
AA has stopped the AUS-HOU-LGA run haven't they?

Yes. The 2x daily MD80s AUS-HOU-LGA ceased a few months back. It's not too big a deal, though, as AA still has 16x daily AUS-DFW, and 14x daily DFW-LGA, so it isn't like AA doesn't still offer quite easy connections over DFW.


User currently offlineCOfaninBOS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

Longhorn-

You wont see AA fly MIA-HOU-AUS since AA already operates 4 daily 737-800s between MIA and IAH.


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 7):
You wont see AA fly MIA-HOU-AUS since AA already operates 4 daily 737-800s between MIA and IAH.

Thats true, I didn't think about that. Thanks COfan!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2636 times:
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Quoting Longhornmaniac (Thread starter):
Is there any more expansion plans for AUS from AA? I know that MIA was served for a while, and it seems last year there were talks of it coming back, but I haven't heard anything.

AA has never served Austin-Miami.


User currently onlineAacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 537 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2608 times:
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Clipper471,

AA indeed did fly AUS-MIA nonstop for a while on the 727......


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting Aacun (Reply 10):
AA indeed did fly AUS-MIA nonstop for a while on the 727......

Are you sure it was on the 727? I have an almost certain recollection it was at the very least on the MD-80 in addition.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 11):
Are you sure it was on the 727? I have an almost certain recollection it was at the very least on the MD-80 in addition.

I can't find it in any old timetables as anything other than an MD80, but I'm not positive as to whether or not the route ever operated with a 727.


User currently offlineClipper471 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2329 times:
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Quoting Aacun (Reply 10):
AA indeed did fly AUS-MIA nonstop for a while on the 727......

Was this a short-lived route? How long did it last? I'm surprised AUS saw the route before SAT did.


User currently offlinePetmbro From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Does AA have any plans to up AUS to a focus city anytime soon?

[Edited 2006-05-16 04:33:13]


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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3299 posts, RR: 44
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Quoting Clipper471 (Reply 13):
Was this a short-lived route? How long did it last? I'm surprised AUS saw the route before SAT did.

Indeed it was a relatively short-lived route, but as I was just a youngster then, I couldn't really tell you how long. It couldn't have been more than 2 years or so, if even that long.

It seems to me that AUS has, especially recently, generated more traffic, especially point to point service, because of the high tech boom. This is evident with the AA/AE service to SJC and RDU. It is interesting to me, however, why AUS got LAX service well before SAT did, as well as many other cities. It may have something to do with the newer airport

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

Quoting Petmbro (Reply 14):
Does AA have any plans to up AUS to a focus city anytime soon?

As has been discussed, there's not much more AA could realistically add to their AUS schedule to make it into a "focus city." MIA could perhaps support a single daily flight, most likely on Eagle, but that's about it.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

I believe that AA officially refers to AUS as a "focus city," but I'm not 100% sure.


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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11637 posts, RR: 61
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 17):
I believe that AA officially refers to AUS as a "focus city," but I'm not 100% sure.

I could be wrong, but I don't believe AA has ever officially designated any city as a "focus city," and I am fairly sure that AUS was never on that list. If anything, I could perhaps have imagined BOS, LAX, or RDU "focus cities," at different points in the last 5-10 years, but AUS is hardly a "focus city," as it is really just a large station that generates lots of O&D to a few specific, targeted markets (LAX/SJC/RDU) beyond the hubs (DFW/ORD/STL).


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32788 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 18):
I could be wrong, but I don't believe AA has ever officially designated any city as a "focus city," and I am fairly sure that AUS was never on that list. If anything, I could perhaps have imagined BOS, LAX, or RDU "focus cities," at different points in the last 5-10 years, but AUS is hardly a "focus city," as it is really just a large station that generates lots of O&D to a few specific, targeted markets (LAX/SJC/RDU) beyond the hubs (DFW/ORD/STL).

Yes, as recently as 2000, their annual report called Austin a focus city.



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User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3647 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 19):
Yes, as recently as 2000, their annual report called Austin a focus city.

Everything recent I see has JFK, LGA, BOS, and LAX as the focus cities, and then the obvious hubs as the hubs.



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