No it won't. It may even intensify the debate. The tin-hat crowd will just dismiss the video as a fake. That's the beauty of almost all conspiracy theories; they don't rely on evidence or logic. Anything contradictory can simply be dismissed as part of the conspiracy.
Boeing7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 17131 times:
Quoting 11Bravo (Reply 5): No it won't. It may even intensify the debate. The tin-hat crowd will just dismiss the video as a fake. That's the beauty of almost all conspiracy theories; they don't rely on evidence or logic. Anything contradictory can simply be dismissed as part of the conspiracy.
We can dream though. Don't ruin the dream man!!!!!!!!
3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 16713 times:
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 11): The debate AFAIK is that if it was really a missile, what happened to that AA flight and its passengers?
It sure is interesting that none of the conspiracy theorists have pursued that question. Seems to me if I wanted to prove that flight didn't hit the Pentagon, the very first thing I'd do is look for evidence of what happened to that airplane and those people instead. (Maybe they *have* pursued it, but not publicized it much, most likely because they don't have anything?)
Flaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1274 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 16551 times:
The passenger debate was settled years ago.....They were spirited away by black helicopters to work in the mushroom mines of Pennsylvania so that production of magic mushrooms could be increased to feed the poor, starving, innocent alter boys at Gitmo........
AirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16485 times:
MSNBC said that the video had been leaked in past by Judicial Watch.org I googled it but couldn't find it... Also if you want to see what the conspiracy theorists are punting around these days I suggest
TransAmerican From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16311 times:
Despite Desh's mistake, going by what's being played on CNN International at the moment, the sensational 'new' footage that we've all been so interested in seeing is in fact just a re-release of the same images with a couple of extra frames thrown in.
No sign of a 757 there at all unfortunately, so unlikely to satisfy conspiracy theorists.
To make matters worse, the only sign of any "flying objects" heading for the Pentagon is a small long blip which appears on the right side of the screen in the frame before the explosion. Unfortunately, it looks like no part of a 757, and in fact could easily be construed as being a "missile-like object" by anyone who might wish to draw that conclusion, however ridiculous it may be.
Not sure what all the fuss is about, given that these images were publicly available over three years ago.
Dream like you'll live forever. Live like you'll die today.
Irobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 16185 times:
Frankly, until I actually see multiple videos from the traffic cameras and the gas station and the hotel all showing an American 757 crashing into the building, not hitting the ground, chopping the light poles down like trees and not cartwheeling into the ground like George Bush Sr.'s private jet did a few months before 9/11 upon approach to Texas, until they show what happened to the two engines of the 757, the tail, etc, until they show us pictures of the remains of the people onboard being removed from the "crash site" and until they explain why a cruise missile sized hole is the only hole found on the side of the Pentagon hit and not a large airliner sized hole and two holes for the engines, not to mention the huge wingspan... *inhale* I will simply NOT believe what everyone is being expected to believe. There's a difference between conspiracy theorists and critical thinkers. Frankly, the US government hasn't proven to me (or a lot of other folks living outside the USA) beyond a reasonable doubt that what they claim happened actually did happen.
Which is also why - let the flaming begin - I refuse to watch United 93. I don't deny that it was probably a well made movie and gripping, but as to its basis on actual events? I'm not convinced. Hate me for thinking that if you will, but that's how I honestly feel.
Like you i have some doubts over AA77
The hole is WAY to small, and how a plane could have hit RIGHT at the building and not before, well, they were not proper trained pilots, and im sure a trained pilot would of had trouble keeping a plane going that fast, and that hevey so level so low, well
: Ah so that is how you feel. I work across the street from the WTC site. Saw the airplanes hit and saw, felt, heard and smelled the collapse of the bui
: If anyone has ever seen pictures of the EL AL 747 cargo plane that crashed into an Amsterdam apartment building, you will notice something very simila
: But even if this was something other than what was sold...I mean told...to the public, what happened to the plane and folks then?
: I'd love to see you two make your case before the families of not only the people who were on those flights that day, but also of those who lost thei
: Exactly, add to that the fact that the part of the building hit was just rebuilt to withstand attack. Kevlar reinforced walls, hardened windows, and
: Has anyone else seen a video of the F4 phantom being slammed into a wall at 500 mph? The test was to see if the concrete on nuclear power plants can t
: Just watched the video.. I didn't see a 757...did anyone ???
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: Exactly. In order to assume what happened on September 11 did not happen, you would have to explain: Where the plane(s) went, why passengers called t
: I saw the video on BBC World just now - didn't see the plane. Although, they have said on BBC that the video was "jumpy" since it was a Pentagon surv
: We also have to remember the Value Jet DC-9 that impacted the Everglades. Everyone was told there was a plane crash, but initially all everyone saw wa
: Not even funny . . . not even close. Lose any family or friends on 9/11??? The conspiracy theorist idiots deserve no quarter and no ear . . . What ki
: TIVO it and go frame by frame, you can see it. You must remember that those cameras take very few frames per minute muchless second, and the plane wa
: It does seem a little odd that not even a part of the 757 is caught on camera, it is also weird that the frame before the explosion you can see someth
: I don't have a clue as to what you just said......Did you proof-read it before posting?
: Jeezus Tap Dancing Christ - here we go . . . That seems weird, There's no plane, The camera was not focused. Good God people . . . . How many more eye
: Compare the feet per second the plane was traveling to the frames per second of a security camera and the length of the plane, and the answer will un
: If AA77 was shot down, wouldn't there be any witnesses? I think so...