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User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Hello,

Frankfurt’s extension
The local authorities of the "Land Hessen" (Germany) have just given their green light for the extension of Frankfurt/Main Airport (FRA). Among the three projects bidding, the "North-West" one has been selected. It will allow the construction of a fourth runway in the wood of Kelsterbacher, with the opening scheduled for 2006 at sooner. This new runway should be undertaken with the construction of a third terminal to handle the additional traffic.

Currently the three runways would be used at about half of their theoretical capacity, because of their proximity which prevents from using them as much as possible.
The newest runway, built in the 1980s, can be only used for take-offs because of environmental concerns.

Lufthansa CEO Jürgen Weber was announced this was a great news for Lufthansa, as the airline has been requesting this extension for long, in order to be able to match the KLM's Amsterdam hub, and the very large extension possibilities of Air France at Paris-CDG.


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Munich to grow as a hub
The Star Alliance currently handles 25 million passengers a year at Munich (MUC), on Lufthansa's second hub. The growth scheduled would be of about 5% in the coming years. The activity of Lufthansa at MUC would have grown by 15% since 1997. The aircraft movements would however grow of only 3% because of the use of wide-bodies.
Despite the recent extension of the Terminal 1, a Terminal 2 is to be built for the Star Alliance's partners.


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Lufthansa's hubs and the competition

Number of connections available within hours in both ways in Europe (Summer 1999)

1. Air France/CDG 11,316
2. Lufthansa/FRA 6,489
3. KLM/AMS 5,826
4. British Airways/LHR 3,976

Point-to-point traffic in Europe (Summer 1999) Paris = 100

1. LHR 133
2. CDG 100
3. FRA 50.5
4. AMS 36.7
5. MUC 28.1
6. ZRH 20.1


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Best regards,
Alain Mengus

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User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 955 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

This is great news; Frankfurt has desperate needs for a new runway, therefore being able to grow with the rest of the industry (airports).
Question (AFa340-300E): I knew that "Startbahn West" was only used for take-offs, but what are the environmental hazards (problems) which make landings not possible?

Boeing727


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1488 times:


This is really great news !!! Is this already 100 % through ??
I would be surprised if it was cause I know it took years till the 'Startbahn West' was through.
Boeing727: I think the problems are that there is a community in the extension of the runway. And there's no clearance to fly above that community on approach (neither for dep).

B737-700


User currently offlineAFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Guten Abend,

Boeing727: Actually I wonder why exactly. Maybe the winds make a landing impossible in the direction from South to North, and it is forbidden to land by arriving from the North?
Hope someone around Frankfurt will be able to tell us more about that.

From my experience on an Air France A320 fight bound for CDG is that the thurst was almost at the maximum on that runway and the aircraft quickly made a turn on the right (in the direction of the West).

Also the German aviation authorities would have requested the help of the FAA for the fourth runway because of the neighborhood!

Viele Grüsse,
Alain Mengus


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1469 times:


It is not because of the winds or whatever it is just a regulation. To prevent noise for the adjoining communities.

B737-700


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10818 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Startbahn West: Noise prevention is the main reason for its only use for take-offs. Thats right.

New runway: The only decision made so far is that the government favors the "Northwest"-project. That is not a formal start, not a permit to begin construction. There will be lots of court-fights between the Airport and the small towns affected by growing noise before anything will happen.

Just a few minutes ago I heard on the radio that the projected Northwest-runway (only to be used for landings by the way and ca. 1000m shorter than the main runways - so mainly to be used for smaller planes) will mean that additionally to the already planned forest-cuttings 100 ha (1 square kilometer) more of forest will be destroyed.

Thats typical: After the initial decision is made, piece by piece the negative aspects will grow! Later they´ll use the new runway for take-offs, too. The promised night-start-stop will be cancelled or never be put in to effect, the runway will be lengthened and so on. The Airport and the Government of "Hessen" (main owner of FRA) will play "salami tactic".


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1436 times:


Hi !!
I assume it'll take a couple of years untill they can start building the runway, right ? Probably the same story than 'Startbahn West'.

B737-700


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