Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3131 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4024 times:
Untill now, SOU seemed to be the only British airport of relative importance not linked to AMS. All major and regional UK airports have multiple dalies to AMS so I'm not surprised at all that a carrier picks up SOU-AMS. Didn't Air Waled or Scot air used to fly it before?
UK Airports with flights to AMS are:
LHR BA KL BD
LGW BA U2
STN U2
LTN U2
LCY KL VG
BRS KL U2
CWL KL WW
BOH TOM
BHX KL WW
CVT TOM
NWI KL
MAN KL LS
LPL U2
EMA WW
DSA TOM
MME KL
NCL KL LS
BLK LS (soon)
GLA KL GSM
ABZ KL BD
EDI KL U2
BMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 856 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3820 times:
Both bmi and scot airways now surprise me. They both have 1 aircraft based at SOU to operate one route. Surely it would be more worth while to expand destinations. Scot airways to Scotland. I'm guessing that bmi will have to base an aircraft at SOU, if not, wheres it going to come from. Does anyone see a weekend charter flight to Jersey appearing like they did from Leeds? Otherwise it seems silly to have an aircraft only flying a single short route once a day?
Drinkstrolley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3800 times:
These regional airports really are opening up now, and it's great to see.
Both SOU and BOH are being served by some good carriers now, and it saves trekking up to LHR or LGW. The Scotairways fare to AMS is mental at the best of times so perhaps we'll see some the "Baby" fares from BMI?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4125 posts, RR: 37 Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3800 times:
Do they only count on O/D traffic? Making an Emb-145 work tickets will be a bit pricey compared London flights, same like Scot Airways. I'd imagine even the smallest backwater in England is lucrative for KLM/KLC to fly on to feed their network but apart from a handfull of SAS/LH/OS/LX aircraft there is not any Star Alliance to feed at AMS. Same with SOU, also little to feed there. I'd have rather thought that BD should fly more to Star hubs like Frankfurt, Copenhagen and Vienna from smaller airports in England like Manchester, Edinburgh, EMA etc.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4125 posts, RR: 37 Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
Quoting Gkirk (Reply 13): Manchester = Small?
Edinburgh = England
Oops my bad, thought BMI had more mid size focus airports in the UK like EMA, Teesside and so and had this sentence typed before I checked their routemap. If they had developed Manchester more with long haul flights, it could have been a feed-hub. I know Manchester and it's a huge domestic and holiday airport but doesn't have the many links with other european capitals as London or even Amsterdam has.
Everyone in the Netherlands (don't say Holland ) talks about England when they mean that island with Wales and Scotland on it as well. "Groot Brittannië" spelling in dutch is worse and different then the English version Great Britain, why the double T's and N's? I still always have to look up if it's Brittannië, Britannië or whatever, and also Verenigd Koninkrijk is just so annoying to pronounce or spell. Sorry on behalf of everyone here but you Brits should have come up with a nice 2 syllable name for your country.
[Edited 2006-05-17 18:32:21]
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3131 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3608 times:
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 14): I know Manchester and it's a huge domestic and holiday airport but doesn't have the many links with other european capitals as London or even Amsterdam has.
When you look at the European airports, you can see that often the major (often the capital) airport links to many other capitals and has long-haul flights, and that long-haul or even 'exotic' European flights from a countries' second airport are rare.
In Germany, Dusseldorf and Berlin have a huge population, but hardly any long-haul flights, and a very strong portion of leisure and charter flights. Barcelona, Manchester and Lyon are in a same league.
Quote: doesn't have the many links with other european capitals as London or even Amsterdam has.
There is not such a difference between links to European capitals between London and Amsterdam, both airports link to almost every capital airport.
Only exceptions I can think of are:
Bern: It's linked to London, but not to AMS. (but, of course, it's not the countries major airport, and ZRH, BSL and GVA have a whole bunch of AMS flights)
Minsk: LHR has a Belavia flight but AFAIK AMS is not linked with Minsk.
Tirana: BA flies 3 weekly from LGW
And both airports don't link to Chisinau. For the rest, there is no such a difference.
I know Embraer builds TURBO props, but isn't 15 minutes of scheduled flying time pushing the limits a bit?
(and I checked it, the BD website does indeed list the above schedule)
Petertenthije From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 3239 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3458 times:
Quoting AJO (Reply 19): I know Embraer builds TURBO props, but isn't 15 minutes of scheduled flying time pushing the limits a bit?
(and I checked it, the BD website does indeed list the above schedule)
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3449 times:
Im not as critical of bmi as some others but I cant understand why SOU-AMS over, for example, EDI-MUC, which when announced seemed to be one of bmi's better decisions. It provided links into a Star hub and opened an important new city to city link between Edinburgh and Munich. There was also no direct competition
SOU-AMS is competing with another airline. The route may be in need of extra capacity but surely there are other routes bmi should be looking to serve first?
I hope SOU-AMS works out for bmi but will they even start it? Im sure everyone remembers EDI-MUC and LTN-BRU
BDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 16 Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3423 times:
Personally, I wouldv'e thought that a WW service as opposed to bmi Regional would have served the route better.
It would offer an alternative service as opposed to that already offered by CB. Scot have been serving the route for many years and will have built up a loyal customer base of those who would prefer not to travel to LGW to avail of an AMS service.
Regardless, I can see the route using the 135's and if I look at the proposed schedule, it looks like it will require 2x aircraft and will require a crew base at SOU.
We shall see what happens.
Trespassers will be shot; survivors will be shot again!
HUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1372 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
Scheduled flights from the UK to Amsterdam are as follows;
Aberdeen Bmi
Aberdeen KLM
Edinburgh easyJet
Edinburgh KLM
Glasgow Flyglobespan
Glasgow KLM
Prestwick Transavia
Belfast International easyJet
Newcastle Jet2
Newcastle KLM
Durham Tees Valley KLM
Leeds Bradford Jet2
Leeds Bradford KLM
Humberside KLM
Doncaster Sheffield Thomsonfly
Blackpool Jet2
Liverpool easyJet
Manchester Jet2
Manchester KLM
Nottingham East Midlands bmibaby
Coventry Thomsonfly
Birmingham bmibaby
Birmingham KLM
Norwich KLM
London Luton easyJet
London Stansted easyJet
London City KLM
London City VLM
London Gatwick British Airways
London Gatwick easyJet
London Heathrow Bmi
London Heathrow British Airways
London Heathrow KLM
Southampton Bmi
Southampton Scot Airways
Bournemouth Thomsonfly
Bristol easyJet
Bristol KLM
Cardiff bmibaby
Cardiff KLM
In addition to the new Bmi SOU flights, Flybe are rumoured to be looking at Exeter, Norwich and Southampton to Amsterdam.
Regards
Mike
25 ScottishLaddie: Dropped from 4th June or sometime round then.
26 Zkojh: oh my god, BD at it again why can't they just get it together and make good use of there hubs before expanding out, lets see a MAN-AMS would be nice!
27 BDKLEZ: Indeed, MAN-AMS is currently not served by any carrier![Edited 2006-05-18 02:25:39]
28 Bmiexpat: bmi regional is a very profitable part of the bmi group, serving niche, high yield markets with small jets and clearly does very well. As far as bmi
29 Bmiexpat: You used to work for them so you should know KLM flies 6 times daily... or are you being sarcastic (Just the way we liked you in AMS!)? I do think th
30 Joost: 7 now: 5x 737 1x F100 1x F70 Not sure if MAN is such a good idea; Jet2 already scaled back it's operations from 3 to 2 daily flights. Does BMI region
31 Pieinthesky: I'd be interested to see a list of the major European capitals that MAN has no scheduled flight to. It's obviously not going to have as many as as AM
32 BDKLEZ: Posting whilst a bit drunk and attempting sarcasm at the same time; not a good combination! Is that you Steve? Indeed. In fact, I would've thought th
33 AirNZ: Yep, you did........BFS We do.......it's UK
35 IMatAMS: Despite all the bashing here i seem to recall reading here a short while ago that BMI made a -small- profit last year. So it seems they're doing OK a
36 Sam1987: They virtually have. You can book BD flights through the WW website and vice versa. BD need to be more consistent. It is quite bizarre booking "bmiba
37 Dutchjet: Good god, does anyone understand BMI's route strategy? Some of the most interesting, friendly and sometimes hysterical discussions here at a.net have
38 Runway23: Bmi was only profitable due to selling LHR slots. As an operation the airline continues to bleed money. The extent of this will become even clearer f
39 AJO: I did. 7 AM SOU time is 8 AM AMS time. This leaves just 15 minutes for the flight!
40 LH121GLA: I wonder if this will be anything like BD's LTN-BRU service or EDI-MUC service - they started to promote them, then decided to drop them before they g
41 Donder10: Base fares seem to start at �24 each way plus tax. Significantly cheaper than Scot Airways.
42 Paulc: If you price a return flight SOU-AMS it works out at £48 + taxes which is fine until you add the taxes which are high. (£53) so for me it is still c
43 Sam1987: ..which is often the way with easyJet's low low prices. I might be going to Milan next month for GBP30 return (taxes included). Not bad!
44 Capital146: Isn't it true that a high proportion of passengers travelling from UK regional airports to AMS are using such flights for onward connections with KL?
45 David_itl: Lisbon, Moscow, Bucharest and Kiev spring to mind. All previously linked to MAN. David
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) talks about England when they mean that island with Wales and Scotland on it as well. "Groot Brittannië" spelling in dutch is worse and different then the English version Great Britain, why the double T's and N's? I still always have to look up if it's Brittannië, Britannië or whatever, and also Verenigd Koninkrijk is just so annoying to pronounce or spell. Sorry on behalf of everyone here but you Brits should have come up with a nice 2 syllable name for your country.
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