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Is There Room For AC To Fly Nonstop YYZ To KIX?  
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 5907 times:

Hello all

I was wondering if theres any high demands for AC to fly nonstop from YYZ to KIX? We all know AC is offering several nonstop flights from YYZ to HKG, NRT, PVG, SEL and soon PEK. Shortage of A/C possibly and if so then they might offer the flight with their brand new 777s and later 787s.  Smile

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User currently offlineAad665 From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 5863 times:


They did in circa 1998 with a Airbus 340 when they are not allowed to fly to Tokyo. I flew it!

I think it is not enough high yield and connection to Osaka.


User currently offlineFLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 5852 times:

Quoting Aad665 (Reply 1):
I think it is not enough high yield and connection to Osaka.

Precisely why it was pulled. It was full, and summer seasonal. There were 3 flights per week, and we loved having 72 hour layovers there!

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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 3042 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months ago) and read 5836 times:

This route will definitely be viable when the 788 comes in 2010 or beyond. Anything bigger would not likely make profits.
During the slower winter season the route could be cut to 4/5 weekly with daily during the summer season. The YVR-KIX would be one daily year round perhaps upgauging the the 772LR during the summer.

Off topic: Does anybody have the delivery dates of the 777s arriving next year? I'm sure once delivered, it will do some familiarization flights on domestic runs before flying on slated int'l routes.

Quoting AirCanada014 (Thread starter):
YYZ to HKG, NRT, PVG, SEL and soon PEK

Isn't PEK already running while PVG going to start?

User currently offlineSebring From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 1677 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months ago) and read 5797 times:

777s: Between March and July, seven will enter service. As AC likes to point out, that's 7 777s by 07/2007

KIX: AC lacks aircraft. Also, there are bilateral constraints on total Canada-Japan frequency, and you couldn't offer a service year-round. When AC has more aircraft, you could see it run a bigger plane on YVR-KIX and bring one of the two flights east, especially after it gets 787s. I think that would be highly likely.

User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2249 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months ago) and read 5781 times:
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I'd love to see some kind of breakdown for how many pax of what fare it would take to make the route profitable and include the famously high KIX landing/service fees. These have been blamed for curtailing sevice to that area before.

Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
User currently offlineAirCanada014 From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 1513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5675 times:

I know AC's first 777-300ER will do YVR to NRT.

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