Tullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1501 times:
AN has been extremely keen to get this route for quite some time and their international 763 has heaps of spare capacity now the SYD-TPE route has been abandoned. Currently the 763's only international services are 2 SYD-HKG trips each week. The rest of the SYD-HKG services are 744s.
AN has had to wait until extra capacity became leglally available on this route but was assured of getting the capacity when it became available on competitive grounds. The other two airlines servicing the route (QF & CX) are both Oneworld members and such a situation was always frowned upon by the Competition Commission.
Al From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 593 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
Has this been approved by the IASC? They've had the application in for some time, but only for 2 flights per week.
The SYD-NRT (Tokyo) daily flights were approved in July, but HKG was still under advisement. If they applied for 2 and were given five, it's a bit of a bonus! Mind you, there's nothing wrong with their 763. Nice aircraft and seating is more than okay down the back. Cheers. Al.
Johnwest From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
You are pro-SQ so get over it mate. I have had some terrible experiences on Singapore Airlines and they are not the best airline. They have alot of problems and staff morale is very low. Even one of the inflight service manager was telling me on my recent trip that staff are not happy with SQ management.
Not to mention poor maintenance on their aircrafts and poor quality meal service.
Mx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1432 times:
*yay* My favourite airline expanding yet again. AN's service, particularly in business class on their International routes is bloody fantastic. I hope that SQ and Air New Zealand don't stuff up the formula.
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2926 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1426 times:
Its a shame that Ansett abandoned Malaysia even though Kuala Lumpur was Ansett's first major Southeast Asian city. Now that it looks increasingly likely that QF and MH are going to tie some knots - Ansett ought to get in there and try to gain some market share before QF goes back to KUL in a big way.
Their current code-share with SQ into KUL is a joke!
B727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1425 times:
Ansett operate daily SYD-KIX-BNE-SYD, Daily SYD-HKG-SYD (5 days with B744, 2 days with B763), SYD-NAN-SYD on Saturday and Tuesday, and to DPS out of MEL/SYD/DRW/BNE/PER a couple of times per week.
On the MEL-HKG service, it would have to be 4 times per week. They would need another aircraft capable of doing this route to perform 5 (1 maintenance day per-week for B763). VH-RMM (B762ER) can do the mission, but it is not a consistent product with the other international aircraft.
Tullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1418 times:
It's unlikely AN will have much interest in KUL even when they get additional capacity from SQ. AN will only be interested in flying into Asian ports that are destinations within themselves (HKG,DPS) or where they connect with Star partners (SIN,BKK) for onward journeys to Europe and throughout Asia.
Cathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
this topic is about Ansett's possible MEL-HKG route, please stop attacking Gundu.....yes....from some other posts he maybe pro-SQ...however, he is entitled to his own opinion.....so stop following him and attacking him on his views!!!!!!!!
Tullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
Whilst this topic will, no doubt, heighten speculation that ex SQ 772s may soon be joining AN's fleet it is possible that AN would use one of NZ's 762ERs for this route in conjunction with the 763.
AN previously used a NZ 762 on the SYD-KUL route but when the route was cancelled leased the aircraft to the short lived Swiss World Airlines. When the plane returned to MEL from Swiss World it was repainted in NZ colors. This plane was in an international configuration similar to VH-BZF (AN's 763) unlike AN's other 762s which are all in a domestic configuration..
Mas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2926 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1343 times:
I wouldn't consider Kuala Lumpur not a '...destination within themselves...'
A significant proportion of passengers at Singapore's Changi airport are travelling to/from Malaysia...but have HAD to use Changi. This is because there had previously been a lack of available airport facilities at Kuala Lumpur (until the new airport opened in 1998). This lack of facitilities drove many airlines to choose Changi as a hub during the 1980s-90s over Subang - hence Changi has been able to build itself to what it is today.
During the last spurt in commercial aviation in the early-1990s, it was noted that Subang would not cope for much longer. True enough whilst KLIA was being built - traffic at Subang reached maximum proportions and led to a strain in slots and movements. Changi meanwhile provided many airlines with the necessary capacity which KUL lacked at the time.
Today, with KLIA fully functional and most of the initial problems now ironed-out, 'oneworld' is keen to capitalise on its location as an alternative to Changi. Added to that, Malaysia's growing (travelling) middle-class (nb : Malaysia's 18 million population compared to Singapore's 3 million) and growth in the business sector should see KUL taking back much of its traffic from SIN.
Under 'oneworld's' plan - should British Airways, Cathay Pacific and Qantas relocate their hubs to KUL - this WILL significantly reduce SIN as a hub. Qantas itself is one of the largest foreign carriers operating into Singapore (after Malaysia Airlines).
..so in all - Ansett may be banking on SQ to provide its Malaysian market but I can foresee both SQ and AN losing quite a few passengers AT Changi as many passengers will no longer be dependant on transferring at Changi.