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NWA DC10 Retirement Plans  
User currently offlineRedtailmsp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 208 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10480 times:

The DC10 will be withdrawn from all scheduled flying on January 8, 2007. They MAY keep a couple of aircraft until May/June as back-ups and for charters. I have heard that Omni Air may take delivery of 5-6 of these aircraft, which I presume would be mainly for military charters. Routes that will lose DC10 service are as follows - HNL-NRT-HNL - flt 21/22 becomes 744 in June/July 2006 to make twice daily 744s on this route. AMS-BOM changes to A330-200 in October, AMS-MEM becomes A330-200 in November, MSP-AMS becomes all A330-300 in December, as will MSP-LGW. The only services remaining DC10 until the end will be MSP-HNL-KIX-HNL-MSP, and no, I do not know what they will use to replace the DC10 on MSP-HNL. The MSP DC10 crewbase will close and a new A330 crewbase will likely open at MSP. Sad times, as the DC10 has been a real stalwart for NWA, especially after they took delivery of DC10-30s and replaced the DC10-40 on the Atlantic. Anyway, now you can start planning your last trips on this old lady.

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User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1818 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10410 times:


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7700 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10402 times:

Thanks for the update Redtail.

There you have it folks, that is the word from man.
I can't believe we are truly getting down to the end here. We knew this day was coming sooner or later.


User currently offline4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10381 times:

Geez...

A final date for the retirement of the DC10s, and a plan in place to replace the DC9s. Whatever will A.netters talk about in here?

 Yeah sure
 duck 



Nobody served our republic like Republic!
User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10316 times:

I am so glad to be booked on NW flt 46 MSP-AMS this July. Never flown on one of these old birds (being young) and I knew they wouldn't be around for much longer. Not much PAX trijet service (of this size) anymore except for the MD-11s and that doesn't look like it will last very long.

User currently offlineDvk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10229 times:

Any idea how much longer the few 742's in commercial service will be around?


I'm not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.
User currently offlineDAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10195 times:

The mighty DC-10 never to be seen again in NW colors? A sad day coming for sure. These were grand old planes. Love them!


One Nation Under God
User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1588 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10003 times:

Looks like MSP will lose non stop service to HNL for the time being. A quick check of NWA.com shows MSP-HNL being a 757-300 with one stop. I didn't realize that the end of DC10 service was coming so quickly. Looks like I have already taken my last ride on one last December from HNL-MSP.

I have flown the DC10 with a few airlines over the years and have so many memories. I will truly miss it. Not too often anymore that you can look out the window at the plane you're about to take and see an engine on the tail. Another chapter in aviation history coming to an end.  crying 



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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9953 times:

While others may not have liked the DC-10's, I spent a lot of time flying them over the Atlantic and the Pacific during the past three years and never once did they let me down. They were very comfy machines to spend 18 hours in.

Steve


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13169 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9913 times:

It's good to hear that they will be in use a lot longer with the highly honorable job of military personnel transport rather than collecting dust in the dessert or become soda/beer cans. It takes a great aircraft to keep going for this long and probably for a lot longer. I am quite sure NW (or it's leasing co's) will get a nice price for them. We will have to keep a look out for the last flights of these great birds under NW.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7700 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 9823 times:

The MSP-HNL nonstop flight is still showing a DC-10 after January 8, 2007.

That doesn't really mean anything at this point as it is likely more or less a placeholder.


User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1588 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9708 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 11):
The MSP-HNL nonstop flight is still showing a DC-10 after January 8, 2007.

I went on and looked up a fare for February and the only thing that came up was the 753 flight with one stop.

Well I have to take that back. I just went and check a March flight and it's showing D10.

[Edited 2006-05-19 23:38:19]


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User currently offlineAAden From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 835 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9632 times:

i'm sorry to see these aircraft go

User currently offlineCoza777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9208 times:

As much as the DC-10 is a beautiful aircraft to look at, I am glad passengers will be spared the torture on flying these Northwest aircraft. I flew the AMS-BOM-AMS route last year. The interior could not be more dirty. (I will avoid talking about the lousy in-flight service). When the plane touched the runway in BOM, an entire piece of the overhead panel came crashing down almost hitting a few passengers in the aisle, revealing much intricate wiring. The flight attendants had to rush to the scene to make sure no one was injured, as the plane was still speeding down the runway.

As silly as I was, I was hoping this incident would have relegated the plane to a desert in Nevada. Yet, there she was again 10 days later on my return flight to AMS. The take-off roll was so long, I sensed every passenger around me getting antsy, worrying that our flight may take a road detour into the Arabian Sea.

If I use NWA ever again to BOM, I would look forward to the A330s.

Good riddance, DC-10!


User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12147 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9006 times:
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Quoting Coza777 (Reply 14):
As much as the DC-10 is a beautiful aircraft to look at, I am glad passengers will be spared the torture on flying these Northwest aircraft. I flew the AMS-BOM-AMS route last year. The interior could not be more dirty. (I will avoid talking about the lousy in-flight service). When the plane touched the runway in BOM, an entire piece of the overhead panel came crashing down almost hitting a few passengers in the aisle, revealing much intricate wiring. The flight attendants had to rush to the scene to make sure no one was injured, as the plane was still speeding down the runway.

As silly as I was, I was hoping this incident would have relegated the plane to a desert in Nevada. Yet, there she was again 10 days later on my return flight to AMS. The take-off roll was so long, I sensed every passenger around me getting antsy, worrying that our flight may take a road detour into the Arabian Sea.

If I use NWA ever again to BOM, I would look forward to the A330s.

Good riddance, DC-10!

The same could, can and does happen to factory fresh planes as well. And if the service was as bad as you hint at, then why did the FA's rush to the scene, they could have just asked as the onjured dragged themselves off the aircraft!



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineTbnist03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 106 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9006 times:

/tear

My only flights on the trijet was from MSP-HNL-MSP. It was a great a/c for the 8-ish hours to get to HNL. I know I'm sad to see them go. They were such a beautiful plane...

Luckily, I have my own sort of remembrance of the DC-10, plus the old NW scheme...

http://www2.gvsu.edu/~yarnottm/nwahybrid.jpg



-Mike
User currently offlineCoza777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8841 times:

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 15):



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 15):
The same could, can and does happen to factory fresh planes as well. And if the service was as bad as you hint at, then why did the FA's rush to the scene, they could have just asked as the onjured dragged themselves off the aircraft!

I admit that this could be a maintenance problem specific to NWA DC-10s, but no passenger should have to accept an overhead panel caving in on them as part of the normalities of modern aviation.

I hope you are not suggesting that good in-flight service is merely "Sir, I came over to check if your head is bleeding profusely". I guess it doesn't matter that passengers were treated like cattle the first 8 hours of the flight. Do you expect flight attendants to be friendly and courteous only when an emergency occurs?


User currently offlineNworlnsbearcub From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8561 times:

Why does this make me want to cry ??

Very sad day coming....

Michael
Austin, TX



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User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8509 times:

Sad times ahead. Not that I ever flew the NW DC10, but I'll still miss it.

Hopefully I'll be able to catch a ride over the pond before its too late.


tg 747-300



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8485 times:

Quoting Redtailmsp (Thread starter):
The DC10 will be withdrawn from all scheduled flying on January 8, 2007

Source?



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User currently offlineLobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8225 times:

Quoting Redtailmsp (Thread starter):
The DC10 will be withdrawn from all scheduled flying on January 8, 2007.

Thank God!!! Sorry to say, but it's out dated and replacement LONG overdue.


User currently offlineKevinBG From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7598 times:

This is my first posting, and I guess it's apt. Read a book titled: "Destination: Disaster", and you'll realize that the DC10 was an airplane unworthly of anything but scorn.

User currently offlineCatball From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7505 times:

Some people just don't get it.

I will be sorry to see them go......


Scott


User currently offline3201 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7505 times:

Quoting Tbnist03 (Reply 16):
plus the old NW scheme...

Old that scheme is not.


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Old, yes, this one. When more years old are you, old schemes will you know.  old 

But, indeed, miss the DC10s, all of us will.


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7557 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7406 times:

More news:
Here are a few updates, made official a couple days ago, some might have heard somethings on it, but here it goes.

The amount of flying for the remainder of 2006 and 2007 has changed, it will now be increased more then originally planned.

The DC-10 aircraft will be retired January 8. Thus, the A330 will takeover such routes. Along with the 744's. This means that MSP-HNL will either be an A330 or 744.

MSP will see a A330 base open most likely late in 2007.

The three out of service Boeing 747-400's will be returned to service.

757 flying plans have changed, it will now be upped. Thus, more parked 757's will be returned to service as more 757 flying will be done. The increase in 757 flights will likely begin in early 2007, but no official date has been set.

Other good news, effective immediately no future pilot furloughs, better yet, planned recall of furloughed pilots starting next year. More pilots were expected be fuloughed, but as you can see that has changed.

^^^^ All of the above is official^^^^^^

From the street (Talks, somewhat rumors)

Hearing around NWA that they plan to put winglets on the 757 fleet, including possible 757 service to Europe.

Thats the latest update.



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25 Centrair : It makes me sad. Nothing like sitting in a DC-10 and rocketing down the runway. Being pressed into your seat and climbing like a bat out of hell. MSP-
26 Post contains links and images Cxsjr : Well, I took what was probably my final DC10 flight last month from AMS-MEM. The bird in question was N224NW which, I believe, is 31 years old. Apart
27 Hjulicher : I remember flying on a NW DC10 and we were sitted in the first row of economy class. I remember how painful this flight was. Flying DTW-AMS in the win
28 Post contains images COA735 : Geez. The only tri-jets in the skies these days seem to be cargo. They seem to be slowly disappearing from the passenger scene. Sad to see them go. I
29 Post contains images Misbeehavin : Dude, that has nothing to do with the aircraft or the route. It's just the NW way. Give them Concorde and they will make it filthy in 20 seconds and
30 Burnsie28 : Not what people are saying about the A330 and all.
31 PSU.DTW.SCE : The topic starter is a credible provider of insider info - particularly from planning & fleet news. I would believe their word. Search past info from
32 Panam64 : And another airline retireing the DC-10. My favorate aircraft, and to me one of the most photogenic alos. I will miss them.
33 Post contains images RootsAir : Why Lufthansa no PTVs
34 Tbnist03 : My apologies. To me, the Grey/Red livery is old, compared to the Silver-ish/Red one now. I know that the Northwest Orient livery was old, but didn't
35 Nworlnsbearcub : I can't believe what I am reading ! The airplane is a classic, and IS worthy of heaps of praise. Unbelievable.... Michael Austin, TX
36 Amhilde : Im still trying to book my summer ticket and presently NW is the cheapest LAS-MSP-LGW on a 10. Maybe I will book this flight anyway given the near end
37 Post contains images 3201 : No need to apologize, I didn't mean it that way! I agree, the bowling shoe is old and was there for a while. Heck, UA has changed twice since the "ne
38 Post contains images B764 : According to amadeus.net, that as of the first week of November the DC-10's are history from MEM & MSP. I just e-mailed Northwest to ask them when the
39 WingnutMN : A little off topic, but to add to Burnsie28's rumors...I heard that NW is not furloughing anymore, because they can't keep pilots around long enough t
40 Lincoln : I owe my first time in First Class to a NW DC-10-- It came when I was about 15 (DTW-LAX, economy was oversold, and I was upgraded-- but no one told me
41 CIDFlyer : I will miss seeing those D10's, I thought they really looked sharp in the new livery too. I remember taking my first D10 back in '99 (MSP-LGW-MSP) and
42 UA772IAD : Ah, the plane that made me fall in love with aviation (at least on the civilian side), I've never flown on NW's DC-10s, but I will miss seeing them ar
43 FutureFO : Just like the DC9 the Deisel 10 will never leave. That seems to be the staple of the NW fleet. Long Live the DC-10-10-30-40-50(M11).
44 BeechNut : You obviously weren't flying a YYZ-NRT nonstop, where the plane had to be fairly coaxed into the air at MGTOW (the flight was even load restricted).
45 RJ777 : This will also mark the end of scheduled United States passenger DC-10 service.
46 CIDflyer : Supposedly the replacement will be the Embraer 175 and Embraer 190. Not for certain but I think that is what I have read on here somewhere. IIRC Comp
47 UA772IAD : A Mainline with an RJ replacement? Wow! That's somewhat daring. Of course, you could argue that the DC-9 is an RJ predecessor, but still, that's inte
48 CIDflyer : I believe the capacity of the E190 seats about 90-100. Of course nothing has been officially announced but that was what the rumor has been. There wa
49 Bennett123 : My understanding is that the NWA DC10-40 were scrapped at Greenwood in Mid 2003. Please can anyone out there confirm. David
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