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SAS 330 Part Of The Wing Fell Off Inflight  
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17782 times:

Today at IAD SAS A330 LN-RKH landed on 1R with missing winglet and part of the wing.
What I mean by part of the wing is that sheet of wing component was ripped off, just like you would cut empty can of Coke with the scisors but not even, and edges would hang on all sides.
Any news about it yet?

Rafal

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User currently offlineKaneporta1 From Greece, joined May 2005, 739 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17731 times:

Any photos??? I haven't heard anything about it on the news...


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17709 times:

Since many planes are certified to fly with one winglet missing, I doubt the plane was ever in danger, unless some internal part of the wing was damaged.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17709 times:

On the picture it looks like it was ripped off inflight. But I just checked flight tracker and flight SAS296 is inflight.

Rafal


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 17671 times:

This has happened before. I seem to recall a KLM B-747-400 that lost a winglet in heavy turbalance in the early 1990s.

User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 17274 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 3):
On the picture

care to share?



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User currently offlineChristeljs From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 533 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 15702 times:

Quoting JRadier (Reply 5):
Quoting Lindy (Reply 3):
On the picture

care to share?

We're all waiting
 cheerful 



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User currently offlineBoeingOnFinal From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14833 times:

Sure hope "in flight" means somewhere over water or mountains, cause I would not care for a winglet slicing through my living room.

I also don't care for people seeing pictures and commenting them without showing them to me

[Edited 2006-05-21 16:22:55]


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User currently offlineChristeljs From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 533 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14788 times:

Quoting BoeingOnFinal (Reply 7):
cause I would not care for a winglet slicing through my living room.

I'd actually care for it. Not only would get it fixed for free, you could get a lot of money for it. Remember the Sioux City DC-10. I think that woman that found the part of the engine got pretty rich.



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User currently offlineBrendows From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14479 times:

Quoting Christeljs (Reply 8):
Remember the Sioux City DC-10. I think that woman that found the part of the engine got pretty rich.
That was a totally different setting, the engine-fan she found was a crucial part in the investigation of the accident, this is a small mishap in comparison.

But of course, finding it is just as important, the last time I checked, winglets weren't exactly supposed to fall of  boggled 

[Edited 2006-05-21 16:48:50]

User currently offlineAviatorTJ From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14433 times:

A winglet could make a nice centerpiece on my living room table. Especially one of those 8ft 737 ones.

I look forward to seeing the photo.


User currently offlineLevg79 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 14183 times:

I'd definitely care to know more about the incident because I flew on this exact plane back in 2003.

Leo.



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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13818 times:

Hey Guys,

Forgot to add picture. Here it is:
http://home.comcast.net/~tipek/sasnowinglet.jpg

Rafal


User currently offlineChristeljs From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 533 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13245 times:

So it didn't make an emergency landing, then? I wonder when exactly it happened. Must be scary for a passenger to see a part of the wing get torn off.


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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13245 times:

According to flight trakkers it went back to Copenhagen last night. No work was done on the wing at IAD.

Rafal


User currently offlineChristeljs From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 533 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13173 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 14):
According to flight trakkers it went back to Copenhagen last night. No work was done on the wing at IAD.

Interesting. It couldn't have been bad then. Did it go with passengers, though?



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6133 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13114 times:
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Quoting Christeljs (Reply 8):
I think that woman that found the part of the engine got pretty rich.

As far as I can recall the reward for finding the fan disk was close to 50,000 USD and the couple donated most of it to charity.



MGGS
User currently offlineSingel09 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13114 times:
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good all is ok!!

thank god an A330 has winglets .. otherwise it is just a modern A300 for looks ..


User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13043 times:

Have you got any evidence whatsoever to back up the dramatic subject line? As already mentioned, most airliners with winglets are certified to fly without one / both of them. There are a large number of photos in the database showing aircraft operating as normal with one missing. For example:


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So it's quite possible that the winglet was missing before the flight even left for IAD. No guarantee that this is the case, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that it 'fell off' inflight.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6133 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12681 times:
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The winglet is not structurally part of the wing. It is simply attached. If it falls or detaches, the wing will not suffer a lot of damage, if any.


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User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12616 times:

I don't have any evidence that it fell off inflight but you can see skin damage on the wing.

Yes it left with the pax back to Copenhagen.

Rafal


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12562 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 20):
but you can see skin damage on the wing.

Where? What I see looks similar to the photos linked above.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineLindy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12368 times:

You don't see that hanging white/red part?

Rafal


User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12260 times:

Quoting Lindy (Reply 22):
You don't see that hanging white/red part?

You mean a reflection of the engine?

'Cuz I see that, but I don't see any damage...

[Edited 2006-05-21 18:41:10]

User currently offlineSCCutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5490 posts, RR: 28
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 12260 times:

Much ado about nothing.

Winglets are aerodynamic enhancements, not required for safe flight. The airline simply made a technical assessment of the condition, verified it struturally sound and secure for flight, and flew it back to be repaired by their own MX.

Yawn.



...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
25 BoeingOnFinal : I would like to see you yawn if you got the winglet slicing through your head. Maybe this is not serious for the Aircrafts flying ability's, but it's
26 Jetflyer : It looks like a 767 without the winglet
27 Kaneporta1 : It's pretty obvious that the winglet did NOT fall off in flight, there are no pieces of wing skin and all that's visible is the winglet attachment poi
28 777jaah : Actually, it went up to 500.000 usd, and yes, they gave to charity most of it. I don't think SAS is even considering giving a dime fot their winglet,
29 Sevenforeseven : Whats the big deal, a aircraft can fly with one or both winglets missing, about 0.5% fuel penaly. This is no news, she probably left with it missing.
30 AR385 : Agreed, I got confused with the zeroes and the comma.
31 Newark777 : Again, no evidence that the winglet fell off inflight. Harry
32 DCAYOW : The Scandinavian picture looks doctored. Did you notice the reflection of the engine underwing both on the forward part of the underwing and then agai
33 Post contains links and images Newark777 : You're right, these areas do look a bit odd: Although the tip of the wing looks normal. Harry
34 JRadier : Look at the orange/grey crossover, it are reflections from the engine
35 Junior747 : Those are quite clearly reflections from the engines. The 'damage' being refered to earlier is the one at the very edge of the wingtip where the wing
36 A319114 : I don't see what looks so strange about that engine reflections.
37 B737200 : I concur with junior747 the red areas on the wing are reflections. They seem strange but its angled and the aileron seems to be in an exact postion fo
38 YZFOO7F : Also, look where the lighted area has its edge along the engine nacelle. You can follow that up to where the damaged looking part is and its a straig
39 Zander : It didn't fall off while inflight, there was a ground accident at CPH some days ago and the mechanics removed the winglet which caused a six hour dela
40 Newark777 : Thank you for your insightful contribution, or are you just trying to boost your post count? I see now that the reflection cuts off so abruptly is du
41 Christeljs : Indeed. Anyone should have been able to see this. And SAS would not have flown pax back to CPH if it was unsafe.
42 Newark777 : I wasn't talking about the winglet. Harry
43 Christeljs : I know that. I know you were talking about the shadow. And I think everyone could have been able to see it is a shadow.. from the sun. Nothing more t
44 Post contains images Jran225 : Hey Rafal, nice to see that you started a thread about this one...I too was interested as to the source of this unusual sight. Just in case you guys a
45 GTTIB : One of our A320's was being pushed back from stand for hangar maintenance, and a catering truck reversed directly towards the wing. The aircraft's win
46 Abba : Am I the only one who feel a little - eh... Reparing outer damage to an aircraft with TAPE? If I were to be on a flight where I could see that the wi
47 JayinKitsap : Last Monday I flew NW SEA-HNL on a 757, as we were boarding many passengers noted the joint of the wing to the fuse was taped over and the tape was fr
48 Post contains images Brendows : They do it from time to time. But, it's not like your regular kitchen-tape, if that's a bit more comforting You can see some pictures of it here:
49 Lindy : Thanks for clearing the things up. From the ground it looked dramatic. When I saw the picture I never thought that red/white parts on the wings were e
50 DCAYOW : Oh no... didn't mean to imply that... actually didn't realize you had taken the photo. I thought it was from other site reporting the incident. Inter
51 Copter808 : True, and let's not forget that the Voyager flew around the world without winglets after damaging them on takeoff.
52 FlyDreamliner : Can you imagine how it would feel - looking out the window and seeing a part of the wing (even if it is just the winglet) just fly off? Especially if
53 Post contains images Brendows : That's when the captain is supposed to say (over the speakers) that they've just released one of the droptanks
54 Post contains images Scoliodon : Good one Brendows!!
55 Qantas744ER : Hey, i just checked with my aunt, she is a purser onboard SK based in CPH and serves onboard a330 and a340, she checked with some pilots this morning,
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