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User currently offlineAmerican762 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4474 times:

Heres a 1960's Pan Am advertisement showing a Pan Am 707 with a "PSA Style" smile painted on the nose. Is this just advertising? Was there a specific few airframes used for the Round Trip flights, and if so, were they actually painted with the smile? Silly topic, but older ads are always interesting. Thanks in advance guys!  Smile



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4454 times:

I don't remember seeing any PA B-707s painted like that. But, there could have been some.

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

Heya,

There are no photos in the DB of a PA a/c with that paint. So, i think it was probably made for Pan Am as an Advertisement stunt.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineDc863 From Denmark, joined Jun 1999, 1558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4435 times:

I think it's just for the ad. No PA 707s ever had a smiley face, instead the area of the smiley in reality was a light metallic grey color until 1973/4.

User currently offlineAmerican762 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

I just thought i'd ask. I would assume that Pan Am would be too classy for this, as they were not going for that type of look, but rather a very professional attitude that would make uneasy passengers feel secure in flying with the nations Flag carrier. Thanks anyways guys  Smile


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4303 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4202 times:

Plus that Pan Am didn't advertize here one dedicated round the world trip (for which it would have been plausible they could paint a smile on that 707) but due to their multihop route network they could offer a tailormade trip to most places which you'd like to visit, with a combination of segments on different flights


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User currently offline113312 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 569 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 4145 times:

Of course, they took advantage of an illusion. The black "smile" is actually the radome. It's likely that they mounted a spare or borrowed radome that was painted all black and then repainted their stripes. Someone probably walked around, notices that this looks like a smile and takes a photo that ends up on some executives desk. Voila, an advertisement opportunity is born.

The PSA smile was something actually painted on intentionally.


User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4020 times:

Quoting 113312 (Reply 6):
The PSA smile was something actually painted on intentionally.

...after the execs saw the advertisment that the one aircraft was painted for. IIRC, originally the powers-that-be were strongly opposed to the concept.



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User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

Quoting American762 (Reply 4):
I just thought i'd ask. I would assume that Pan Am would be too classy for this, as they were not going for that type of look, but rather a very professional attitude that would make uneasy passengers feel secure in flying with the nations Flag carrier.

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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10645 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

I think its just retouched for the ad. The radomes of PAs 707s (and 727s) at that time were painted grey in the area which appears black in the ad.

User currently offlineAmerican762 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3877 times:

This is not the radome, as the random lower portion of it was never painted black on a Pan Am 707 (except for the very tip). The only other time this was done was directly beneath the cockpit on the very first 747's. I guess to take away glare/heat from the cockpit. But no, it certainly was not an accident. It was either done purposely to look like a smile, or touched up on paper to look like a smile. They did not borrow a radome though.


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