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DOT Approves TACA/LACSA - United Code Share  
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3803 times:

After sitting at the DOT for a while, the proposed TACA/LACSA and United codeshare was approved this week replacing the AA codeshare due to end on June 30th.

http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf96/398789_web.pdf


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User currently offlineM180up From El Salvador, joined May 2006, 403 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3787 times:

good news, hopefully TA will join star alliance also sometime in the future  crossfingers 


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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3781 times:

Good news. This new TA-UA codeshare agreement could lead to an even fiercer competition against CM and their big partner CO. Let's see how they'll do with this codeshare.

User currently offline2travel2know From Panama, joined Apr 2005, 3580 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3672 times:

Would this TA/LR - UA Codeshare mean that TA will stop flying to SFO and IAD and UA will take over those flights?
The TA/LR - UA Codeshare may work better than the CM - CO Codeshare, major reason IMHO TA/LR do complement UA somewhat lousy and very limited Southamerican services, while quite often CM and CO services don't complement eachother but compete one against the other.



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3662 times:

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 3):
Would this TA/LR - UA Codeshare mean that TA will stop flying to SFO and IAD and UA will take over those flights?

Yes, but you mean SAL-IAD and SAL-SFO, maybe even SJO-SFO? Who knows. Last time I checked, UA wasn't in the best position in Central America and has in fact axed the old LAX-GUA-SJO flight, along with IAD-SJO. If UA was to take over the flights from IAD and SFO, it would mean that they'd be forced to re-enter the very market they left.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3648 times:
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I wonder if addtional flights to ORD will be started.. and what about that 1x week ORD-SJO flight? Will there be like a press release detailing routes?


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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4763 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Great news! Wonder what routes will be included in the codeshare.

Quoting M180up (Reply 1):
hopefully TA will join star alliance also sometime in the future

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:  crossfingers 

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 3):
Would this TA/LR - UA Codeshare mean that TA will stop flying to SFO and IAD and UA will take over those flights?

Doubt it, as those two routes see high loads almost year-round. In fact, SAL-IAD was the first route to be operated by the A321 when it was first delivered.



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User currently offlineJuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1198 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3548 times:

I don't think that UA will replace TA flight on SFO and IAD to SAL, they maybe could replace de GUA-IAD flight from TA.

Really good news for UA, they will have more presence in Latin America and TA will have more presence in Western USA

Regards

Juanchito



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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 3473 times:

Oh btw, has the A321 started routes from SJO already?


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days ago) and read 3463 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
axed the old LAX-GUA-SJO flight

Actualy LAX-GUA operates daily with a B757. The only thing that dropped was the GUA-SJU tag on flight.



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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4763 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3449 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 8):
Oh btw, has the A321 started routes from SJO already?

Not that I know of, but I'll try to confirm. One of the 321's was sent to LIM recently; I had thought it would be used for the LIM-SJO route, but apparently it's flying SAL-LIM.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 9):
The only thing that dropped was the GUA-SJU tag on flight.

Didn't know we had nonstops to Puerto Rico...  Wink (just kidding, I know you meant SJO)



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25741 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3446 times:

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 10):
Didn't know we had nonstops to Puerto Rico... (just kidding, I know you meant SJO)

Oops typo..



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Great news. I think the North - Central American continents are panning out well with alliances. I'm happy about this one. I always thought the TA - SA)">AA deal was too tight. This balances things out well.

Star: No Mexico, but Canada and central America
Sky: No Canada, but Mexico and central America
1World: No Canada, but Mexico and central America (thru SA)">AA's heavy presence (assuming everything follows thru with MX in Star)

BTW, Now with TA - SA)">UA tie up, I think Star should really think about MIA. I know what they are up against, but with proper vision, planning, and make either SA)">UA or US focus not hub, they could get a little nice niche thing going on down here. Add the new terminal and bring in SA and things could certainly get interesting. Could make things at MIA very interesting. I hope MIA doesn't let SA)">AA control it the way it does DFW and DL at ATL. Remember SA)">AA needs MIA more than MIA needs it. If SA)">AA were to leave, somebody else would love to have those South and Central Am flights.

**** I don't know why SA)" keeps showing up after I press post the message. Please ignore it.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3318 times:
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Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 10):
but apparently it's flying SAL-LIM.

I guess that means that that route was long overdue. I guess as far ar Hubs go.. SAL is more of a "connection" one and SJO is more of a "destination"



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User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 8):
Oh btw, has the A321 started routes from SJO already?

I believe TA is flying the A321 SAL-SJO-SAL Saw it last night at around 5PM in SJO

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 4):
fact axed the old LAX-GUA-SJO flight

I´m almost sure they only axed the SJO extension as they mentioned they wanted to focus on LIR. I´ve heard that LAX-GUA-LAX is a money maker....

Any ways, great news, this codeshare will benefit all of us Distancia members in LAX that need good conections and fly the closest thing to the home town hub carrier: UAL

MGA



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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3239 times:

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 5):

IF they didn't fly to ORD when they were married to AA...why would they with UA? Both AA and UA have hubs at ORD.

Incidentally, how is TA doing at IAH.....I belive they are struggling ...this after many years of filling that plane every day...sometimes twice daily.....



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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4763 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3234 times:

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 15):
IF they didn't fly to ORD when they were married to AA...why would they with UA?

Actually they do fly SJO-GUA-ORD, 3 times a week I think?

Quoting MGA (Reply 14):
I believe TA is flying the A321 SAL-SJO-SAL Saw it last night at around 5PM in SJO

That's not fair, I want the 321 at GUA!  hissyfit 

I've tried to confirm the A321 routes with no luck (taca.com doesn't display them, reservations must be having a special offer day as the lines are always busy, and my reliable source at res has gone to a meeting in LIM... lucky s.o.b.! Big grin). Damn, I really miss my SABRE, it was so easy that way...



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User currently offlineDartland From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3219 times:
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Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
I've tried to confirm the A321 routes with no luck

One is flying MGA-MIA / LAX-SAL
One is flying IAD-SAL
One is flying from LIM (I think mostly to SJO and EZE)

At least as of a few weeks ago.

The newest one (ship 568) started on the MGA-MIA run last week in March, and that allowed ship 566 (i think) to go south to LIM.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3206 times:
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Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
Actually they do fly SJO-GUA-ORD, 3 times a week I think?

AFAIK,it 4 x week. For some reason the flight is now ORD-GUA-SAL. Flew it a few weeks ago..



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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3190 times:
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Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 15):
IF they didn't fly to ORD when they were married to AA...why would they with UA? Both AA and UA have hubs at ORD.

What I was thinking was additional flight - ones that would actually allow connections to UA. The current flight arrives at the ungodly hour of 1AM



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User currently offlineCarmenlu15 From Guatemala, joined Dec 2004, 4763 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting Dartland (Reply 17):
One is flying MGA-MIA / LAX-SAL
One is flying IAD-SAL
One is flying from LIM (I think mostly to SJO and EZE)

Thank you very much.  Smile

Quoting Mt99 (Reply 18):
AFAIK,it 4 x week. For some reason the flight is now ORD-GUA-SAL. Flew it a few weeks ago..

Right, I forgot... the SJO flight is the one continuing to LAX now. How was the landing at GUA?  Smile



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3190 times:

Quoting MGA (Reply 14):
I´m almost sure they only axed the SJO extension as they mentioned they wanted to focus on LIR.

Yes, but didn't they have problems with one of those LIR routes? I believe UA is flying ORD-LIR with a 757 once weekly, while they have problems with IAD-LIR. Correct me if I'm wrong though.


User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6609 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
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Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 20):
How was the landing at GUA?

It actually was one of the smoothest landing i have ever experienced. Its cool the way the aircraft has to corkscrew (at least it feels that way) to loose altitude. That "step" at the end of the runway is always scary no matter how many times you go over it. But the views of the city (Tikal Futura and Zona 10) are always worth it.

Onwards to SAL there is no need to change planes.. so i just stayed in my seat for 40 min or so. Its actually a good thing i hated that change. No offense but Gate 1 at GUA - looks and feels like a living room in a house (not a very nice one at that)m and after a 4hr flight thru the night with practically no sleep it was never the most pleasent experience.



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User currently offline787KQ From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 549 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3070 times:

Quoting Dartland (Reply 17):
Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 16):
I've tried to confirm the A321 routes with no luck



Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 20):
Quoting Dartland (Reply 17):
One is flying MGA-MIA / LAX-SAL
One is flying IAD-SAL
One is flying from LIM (I think mostly to SJO and EZE)

Also seen at IAD, dont know if its a regular.


User currently offlineAer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 18 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Does this mean that TA is going Star? I was checking UA's webpage and they list TA as a comingsoon Star Alliance member. http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1177,00.html


nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
25 Dartland : " target=_blank>http://www.united.com/page/article/0....html Curious. Everything I've previously heard indicated TA had no interest in Star, even give
26 Post contains images Mt99 : This does seem like a definate interest in TACA as a member of Star. You know what that mean STAR livery !!
27 Abrelosojos : = Could you please elaborate on this? = Actually its the other way round ... TACA wants to be part of an alliance and from internal sources have been
28 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : " target=_blank>http://www.united.com/page/article/0....html I just checked and TA is now listed under "Airline Partners" rather than "Star Alliance N
29 Post contains images Kiwiandrew : it might just be that someone leaked something a little too soon - we can hope , can't we
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