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FlyGlobespan Growth Article In Glasgow Herald  
User currently offlineBMIE70 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 109 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Two articles in the Glasgow Herald today (22nd May) detail FlyGlobespan's fleet expansion plans including additional 767s and 737s as well as the addition of 757s to the fleet.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62465.html

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/62446.html

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User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3008 times:

I wonder whether the 757s will be used on long haul routes (e.g. EDI to JFK) or whether they will be go on the Canary runs (e.g. GLA-TFS).

Sounds ambitious. Let's hope he can pull it off.


User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2995 times:

Talk of codeshares, on-line check-in, select your seat on-line, select your meal on-line.....I wonder who the codeshare will be with. This airline are certainly one of the most ambitious around at the moment.

Gaz



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User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Do they not already have some sort of 'codeshare' agreement already with the likes of US Airways on PHL-GLA? Perhaps this could be extended to the likes of AA, CO and DL on their Scottish transatlantic services? Perhaps they could also do a deal with the Canadian carriers - Zoom and Air Transat?

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 2):

hmm...

Well, EDI-SFB is 'supposed' to be announced later this year for a start in 2007 Summer season. That would have to be a B767.

I am not too sure if EDI-JFK will ever be operated by GSM because i think they are a lot more related to the Charter market and isn't that the reason why the stopped their Domestic services?

Thanks
Mike

EDIT: The have a codeshare with Air Transat on EDI-YYZ i think.

[Edited 2006-05-22 12:54:05]

User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2984 times:

Quoting Damian (Reply 3):
Do they not already have some sort of 'codeshare' agreement already with the likes of US Airways on PHL-GLA?

No.

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2972 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 5):
No.

I stand corrected. Must have picked up the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 4):
Well, EDI-SFB is 'supposed' to be announced later this year for a start in 2007 Summer season. That would have to be a B767.

I'm not sure they'll go for SFB from EDI. I think using the 757 to destinations like NYC and BOS is more likely. Perhaps they might look to replace Air Transat on EDI-YYZ too?


User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
I stand corrected. Must have picked up the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

I think the story was that US offered GSM as a possible airline for pax to fly AMS-GLA-PHL or STN-GLA-PHL. But they also offered plenty of other airlines as alternatives and for some reason people thought this was a codeshare.

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineDalecary From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

I expect FlyGlobespan to order 787s at some stage. They have been very keen on the 787 for a while now.

User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
I'm not sure they'll go for SFB from EDI. I think using the 757 to destinations like NYC and BOS is more likely.

Well, AA have been looking around EDI and apparently 'looked' interested. So, if AA were ever to fly into EDI i think the would come at us from BOS.

I am not too sure if operations such as New York etc. are in FlyGlobespan's business plan but i doubt they offer the service such as AA, CO or DL.

Quoting Damian (Reply 6):
Perhaps they might look to replace Air Transat on EDI-YYZ too?

Possible, but like i said above ^

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineGLAGAZ From UK - Scotland, joined Feb 2004, 1983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2925 times:

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 9):
I am not too sure if operations such as New York etc. are in FlyGlobespan's business plan but i doubt they offer the service such as AA, CO or DL.

GSM would not be looking at the same market as these airlines. CO fly to EWR due to their hub, offering pax connecting flights to the rest of the US.

GSM would be strictly dependant on O&D pax, unless ofcourse the mystery codehsare partner is an airline with a NYC hub  Smile

Personally I would like to see Zoom as a codeshare partner.

Gaz



Neutrality means that u don't really care cos the struggle goes on even when ur not there, blind and unaware
User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 10):
Personally I would like to see Zoom as a codeshare partner.

Yes, they would actually suit each other but that won't happen until they drop Air Transat.

Thanks
Mike


User currently offlineDamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2905 times:

Quoting Dalecary (Reply 8):
I expect FlyGlobespan to order 787s at some stage.

Yes, this article (an interview with Globespan's Tom Dalrymple from August last year) seems to confirm his airline's interest:
http://www.sundayherald.com/print51104


User currently offlineBa757gla From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

i think GSMS plans are too ambitious where does the buck stop . GLA-SFB tio me personlly is a charter route and theyve pulled their domestic routes which was silly 1x stn-gla a week ! altough its good to see growth out of scottish airports its just a different kind

User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5150 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2830 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 10):
GSM would not be looking at the same market as these airlines. CO fly to EWR due to their hub, offering pax connecting flights to the rest of the US.

GSM would be strictly dependant on O&D pax, unless ofcourse the mystery codehsare partner is an airline with a NYC hub Smile

The O&D demand to NYC is huge, I have seen it quoted on these boards that 50% of passengers on EDI-EWR are O&D, thats a pretty huge market. GSM could easily launch a 2x weekly NYC flight and make a killing on short breaks.



That'll teach you
User currently offlineGSM763 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

If GSM could offer a complete no frills service to NYC possibly with return fares from around the £150 mark they would make a killing on short especially weekend breaks. A route to SFO would have to be at a fairly high frequency as this is a mainly business roure due to nearby Silicon Valley. The 757s could be used for a mix of short transatlantic (e.g JFK, BOS or YYZ) and Canary Islands routes allowing the 737s to move to shorter sunshine and possibly a few city routes.

User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

I certainly dont want GSM doing what they did on the GLA-PRG route- throwing off established carriers eg OK only to then reduce frequency from a one time 2 flights every day to just twice a week. This could seriously push CO off any NYC route.

User currently offlineGustyOrange From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

I agree totally BY738.

GSM could do more harm than good.


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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2593 times:

I don't actually agree with this. CO has a large percentage of connecting pax originating in the likes of EDI and GLA, transitting through EWR. GSM would'nt be able to offer a single connecting flight from EWR onwards. Don't forget CO has a good brand awareness in the regions, is a member of Skyteam, therefore offering FF benfits, and also has an excellent Business class product.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 18):
also has an excellent Business class product.

And so might GSM


User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 7):
I think the story was that US offered GSM as a possible airline for pax to fly AMS-GLA-PHL or STN-GLA-PHL. But they also offered plenty of other airlines as alternatives and for some reason people thought this was a codeshare.

Its just an interline agreement isn't it?

Quoting BY738 (Reply 16):
I certainly dont want GSM doing what they did on the GLA-PRG route- throwing off established carriers eg OK only to then reduce frequency from a one time 2 flights every day to just twice a week. This could seriously push CO off any NYC route.

I think GLA means a lot more to CO than OK.

GLA-EWR is a very long established route with I guess good cargo loads and good yields. Theres also pretty much unrivaled connecting oppurtunities available at EWR, which GSM could never beat.

OK's GLA-PRG service was just to compete with GSM. I can guess the yields must have been horrendous.



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User currently offlineScotron11 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

I flew them EDI-ALC-EDI in September and both flights were excellent. I am booked in their "premier" economy GLA-SFB in September, which at £421 r/trip was the lowest available of all carriers that I checked. In fact, the lowest on CO was around £800 in regular Y.

Anyone know how the SFB route is doing?


User currently offlineA330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 649 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

People,

FlyGlobespan is now working very hard to become established as Scotlands National Airline.
Our Short-Haul product is based on the lowcost idea, but with amenities like internet check-in, assigned seating and major airports.
This is exactly the same as done by EI, IB,AU,...
Our Long-haul product will be 3 class with really excellent service in the 2 upper classes.



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