JetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2785 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3491 times:
Quoting B777-700 (Reply 2): Is it just me, or does Jetblue beat their chest about everything? I mean, who honestly cares if they're the second largest airline in PWM. Is it an accomplishment?
JetBlue didn't make a press release out of this information. Instead, the writers of the article (as well as several other articles) decided to include this information. It's only implicit that this piece of information is thrown in to show just how much of a capacity increase this is compared to pre-JetBlue PWM.
Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1727 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3462 times:
Just got back from the inaugural flight, which started with very low key in JFK, and no gate celebration at JFK, like other inaugural flights. However, the festivity mood quickly changed as the captain and first officer welcomed us on board. They are both from Maine, and then we have couple important guests on board -- the mayor of Maine, which greeted every one as they deplaned. It is a big deal for Portland Jetport and Maine. The flight was operated by N562JB "My name is Blue, Jetblue" in Bubble livery, which ironically arrived from Portland, Oregaon an hour prior to our departure time.
Gate was nine at JFK, but JFK was a bit chaotic, as the morning LAS and BUR flights were delayed significantly and many gate shuffling... The flight itself was really short -- 50 minutes from JFK to PMW, and 48 minutes from PMW to JFK. The service is express on the way to PMW, but full beverage and snacks on the way back. However, I foresee this route being all express because the flight times are very short.
The load was about 2/3 full upward, and 1/2 full on the way back with lots of non-rev. However, there are signs of the businessmen, who don't really care if it is inaugural or not.
On the way back from PMW, it is obvious that most of them are connecting passengers -- even the F/A warned about the long list of connecting flights she was reading out loud -- BUR, BUF, LGB, FLL, MCO, TPA, Bermuda, SYR, OAK...
We got a water salute at the PMW during arrival and departure... that was cool. When we landed, there were lines of Jetblue employees and officials waiting at the gate taking pictures, and a press conference took place a few minutes after we landed. Everyone was in a cheerful mode. No more destination posters, but a smaller version is available at the desk! I was tempted to ask for a sticker, but the gate was too chaotic. Dunkin Donuts sponsors the food -- blue covered donuts, blue vanilla cake, and Dunkin coffee . The nearby US Airways employees were also invited to take part. However, they ran away after their flights left (a RJ), but most of them actually stayed in the ramp, and watched us go. Most importantly, Jetblue uses gate 10, in between two US Airways gate. The Jetport was really small with about eleven gates, but looked good enough.
What else! On the return, the Maine Authority created this special chocolate bar with the map of the Northeast and JFK and PMW connecting together. A very cool Jetblue bar! Too bad, I can't keep it forever.
We arrived at JFK fifteen minutes early and within an hour and fifteen minutes, I was back in downtown Manhattan.
Sorry I did not take any pictures because my digital camera was lost during my last YX flight. I need to wait a week or so before buying a new one.
Anyway, it is a cool Jetblue inaugural flight!
The next inaugural is Air Tran's SEA-ATL Thursday, and then Jacksonville and Pittsburg for Jetblue.
PS. Almost forgot -- the ground staff at PMW gave us a special goodbye by waving their "lobster claws"! They all wore the lobster claw gloves to wave as we pushed back and taxied out.
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3807 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3382 times:
I personally think this is great for 'little' Portland, Maine. Those of you not familiar with the airport understandably wonder what the big deal is about. But PWM has lost service over the years to the point where--to them--this IS big news. So keep it in that context.
The issue that I worry about is what happens after Labor Day (September). Portland is very much a seasonal station--great between Memorial Day in May and Labor Day in early September. But during the other eight months it's a bit tougher to fill those seats. So, I think jetBlue will pull back and change some (or all) of those flights to E190s.
And in a snap of the fingers, gone is the 'Second Largest Airline' label.
B777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3367 times:
Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5): JetBlue didn't make a press release out of this information. Instead, the writers of the article (as well as several other articles) decided to include this information. It's only implicit that this piece of information is thrown in to show just how much of a capacity increase this is compared to pre-JetBlue PWM.
No, the service in PWM has dropped off a lot over the last 5 years. When Business Express flew out of there they had around 14-15 flights a day to BOS and 4-5 to LGA. At one time Delta even had 2 or 3 daily B757 flights to BOS and now your luck to get a CRJ200. The big draw away was MHT and BOS that offered better fares. You can still park your car at the Portland Bus Depot, ride down to BOS or MHT and get dropped off at your terminal and save $300 on most fares. The city is now hoping to bring back the service with jetBlue.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 days ago) and read 3273 times:
Quoting Jeffrito (Reply 10): The real question is, how do they make Syracuse & Buffalo work between Memorial Day in May and Labor Day in early September?
Are you kidding me? The flights to BUF, ROC and SYR are packed, year-round. Obviously filled with people going to Florda in the winter, during the summer the people are distributed throughout the network more evenly- California, LAS, PHX, MSY, etc.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6365 posts, RR: 34 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 days ago) and read 3255 times:
Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 5): JetBlue didn't make a press release out of this information.
You sure about that?! The headline of the JetBlue press release reads: "The Maine Event: JetBlue Starts Nonstop Flights Between New York/JFK and Portland, ME: JetBlue Becomes Portland's Second Largest Airline With Four Daily Flights"
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1727 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 days ago) and read 3236 times:
Mayor of Portland, Maine...
Governor of Maine
One of those two officials are on board the inaugural JFK-PMW... the newspapers in Maine would confirm those information tomorrow
"Express" means still a full can of soda, but with less choices.
am - OJ, apple juice, cranberry juice, coffee, and/or water
other time -- Coke, Sprite, Diet Coke, water and/or ginger ale
Of course, the F/A is more than happy to get you something else. In this express flight, F/A just come out with trays of cups with ice, and cans of those juices/sodas/waters, and it makes for easier service due to the short duration. Snacks are limited to two kinds though.
BTW, on the legacy airlines, it is typically, "due to the short duration of flight and/or turbulence, no beverge will be provided". Then the F/A will sit on the jump seat read a magazine and make him or herself a drink...
JetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2785 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 days ago) and read 3213 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 14): You sure about that?! The headline of the JetBlue press release reads: "The Maine Event: JetBlue Starts Nonstop Flights Between New York/JFK and Portland, ME: JetBlue Becomes Portland's Second Largest Airline With Four Daily Flights"
Perhaps I stated it incorrectly. I meant to say that JetBlue didn't make a press release just out of this information. Instead, the main point is that JetBlue just started 4 daily flights between JFK and PWM, and it is also the second largest airline at the airport. It's not like JetBlue has been serving PWM for 5 years and just became the second largest airline, thereby issuing a press release.
In any case, my response in the first place was because of:
Quoting B777-700 (Reply 2): Is it just me, or does Jetblue beat their chest about everything?
In my opinion, all the more power to B6. This gives additional hype to the airline and helps with word-of-mouth advertising, which has proven to be the most effective and obviously the cheapest (free!). JetBlue has always tried to find ways to make people 'excited' about its flights and it has always worked, so I don't see a reason for that to change.
In any case, the four flights are being downgraded to E190s this upcoming winter according to jetblue.com.
Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
B777-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3111 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 14): You mean PWM...and what exactly is "express" service? Is it the legacy-style "due to the short duration of our flight there will be no/limited service?"
Yes, exactly, but it's Jetblue so it's somehow "different"
Quoting Carfield (Reply 15): BTW, on the legacy airlines, it is typically, "due to the short duration of flight and/or turbulence, no beverge will be provided". Then the F/A will sit on the jump seat read a magazine and make him or herself a drink...
ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3807 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
Quoting Carfield (Reply 6): The flight itself was really short -- 50 minutes from JFK to PMW, and 48 minutes from PMW to JFK.
I was looking at the flight paths for today's flights over on FlightAware.com. The ones going from JFK up to PWM seem to take a whole different route than the flights going the other way. Check it out and you'll see. In fact, judging by the maps the flights going from PWM-JFK seem like they would be a whole lot shorter than the northbound ones. I'm sure there are ATC reasons why they can't use the same route, although steering clear of Boston traffic might be reasonably easy because these planes would be 25,000+ feet over the city or thereabouts...well above any departing/arriving traffic there, IMO.
PWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1218 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2834 times:
Quoting FA4B6 (Thread starter): The Maine Event: JetBlue Starts Nonstop Flights Between New York/JKF and Portland, ME: JetBlue Becomes Portland's Second Largest Airline With Four Daily Flights
As a resident of Portland, Maine I couldn't be anymore thrilled than I am today with the arrival of JetBlue in town! I didn't get to PWM to see the first flight today, but did manage to stop over on Sunday when they ran three test flights to PWM full of B6 employees. (N548JB was the first B6 metal to land at PWM last Sunday for those who care.) I agree that for those of you who aren't familiar with PWM you probably don't understand the significance of today, but this is the biggest news this airport has seen in twenty years!
It's great to see something on the ramp besides an RJ or a NW DC-9 for a change!
Yes, Portland has seen a drastic downgrade in service during the last decade. Over the last ten years we've had mainline service with DL,CO,UA,US,NW, and TW. About six years ago, one by one, the all the majors started to close their stations here and replaced service with RJ's. DL being the last to leave last September. (Although I've noticed NW has been flying 3 flights a day on -9's the last couple months)
I think B6 will thrive at PWM. This is partly based on the ridiculously high fares that have been the norm here for years. Partly on the success Independence Air had here. And also from my own experience working DL flights on the ramp for a couple years. Passenger numbers at PWM will decline in the off season no doubt overall, but I firmly believe that the demand for Maine to Florida travel by itself, will be significant enough to fill those planes in the off season months, even if they might have to be downgraded to the E-190's. When I use to do ramp work although passengers numbers went down in the off season, demand to Florida only increased. Often our morning flights to ATL and CVG on MD-88's were 100% full with 2/3 of passengers destined for Florida. I can only imagine how many others choose to drive to BOS or MHT for a lower fare. Now maybe with time and marketing PWM can draw those passengers back and flourish once again, whether it be July or January!
25 DeltaMIA: Curious, what were you expecting PHX-TUS and what legacy flies JFK-BOS (that isn't operating by a regional carrier)? If you want true service on shor
26 PWM2TXLHopper: From Tuesday's edition of The Portland Press Herald. http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/business/stories/060523jetblue.shtml
27 Carfield: Well the outbound flight actually pushed back a few minutes earlier, but at 9:30am, there was literally a line of planes waiting for takeoff, and Jetb
28 Coschnauzer: Does anybody know who is staffing the JetBlue operation? I never saw any job postings on their website.
29 B777-700: Great. I haven't. Exactly. That's how it works on regionals.
30 Floorrunner: That's not true. People Express flew PWM-EWR back in the eighties with 737's.
31 FlyPWM: It is great to have Jetblue here at PWM. Portland lost mainline service from DL last September, I can't remember when AA bugged out. PWM was a strong
32 EMBQA: Don't forget Presidental, but I'm not sure if they'd be classified as a LLC
33 Iowaman: Good luck to B6 in PWM, and I'm glad to see a LCC carrier in PWM with mainline service. I'm somewhat afraid that 4x A320 will be too much, but they go