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FR Check'n Go: Take The PASSPORT, Not The ID Card  
User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 10
Posted (7 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

On FR site they say to use the PASSPORT, but they dont't say that the use of national ID cards, suitable for traditional check in, is not accepted for the check'n go system.

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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 3147 times:

This is probably due to the fact that since the UK doesn't have national ID cards, thus requiring a passport to travel outside the UK. FR has many flghts to/from the UK and non-EC countries, so probably to prevent conflicts with the 'check n go' terminals, make the use of e-reading standardized passports.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 6 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 1):
This is probably due to the fact that since the UK doesn't have national ID cards, thus requiring a passport to travel outside the UK.

Right! A few weeks ago we had a discussion in the Non Aviation Forum, some British A.net member was asking if a passport is required to enter Greece. I told him that an ID card is enough, he then told me that UK citizens don't have ID cards. This is probably the reason why Ryanair is always mentioning "passports" instead of "ID cards".

Patrick


User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 5 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

OK, but ID cards are OK for ALL European passengers on EVERY route (except new Morocco routes I think).

ID cards are not suitable ONLY FOR CHECK'N GO procedure.

And I don't understanmd why.


User currently offlineBa321 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 5 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

Quoting F.pier (Reply 3):
OK, but ID cards are OK for ALL European passengers on EVERY route (except new Morocco routes I think).

Not true a passport is required to enter the UK and Republic of Ireland from within the EU, as they did not sign the Schengen treaty. Therefore to enter or leave the UK you MUST have a passport wherever you have come from inside or outside the EU.



Fly safe, ba321
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 5 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

Quoting Ba321 (Reply 4):
Not true a passport is required to enter the UK and Republic of Ireland from within the EU

No, citizens of the EU do not need a passport to enter the UK and Ireland, I think I never entered the UK or Ireland with a passport, I just showed my ID card and it was ok.

Patrick


User currently offlineStarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 2921 times:

Quoting Ba321 (Reply 4):
Not true a passport is required to enter the UK and Republic of Ireland from within the EU, as they did not sign the Schengen treaty. Therefore to enter or leave the UK you MUST have a passport wherever you have come from inside or outside the EU.

Not True.

If you are an EU Citizen with an Identity card you are allowed to enter the UK. My girlfriend is polish and flies to/from europe with her ID card all the time.

If your not from the EU, or are British, you need a passport.



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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 2900 times:

Quoting Ba321 (Reply 4):
a passport is required to enter the UK and Republic of Ireland from within the EU, as they did not sign the Schengen treaty. Therefore to enter or leave the UK you MUST have a passport wherever you have come from inside or outside the EU.

As you would say...

Quoting Ba321 (Reply 4):
Not true

...a passport is not required by nationals of a country which has signed the Schengen agreement to enter the UK or Ireland. A national ID card of any EU or EEA country will suffice.

What you refer to is nothing to do with the Schengen agreement.

The Schengen agreement simply permits it's participant countries to travel without "border control" between it's member states on the basis that an individual may be required to prove his/her nationality, but in order to do so will at least be required to produce a national ID card; or a full passport if they prefer.

Quoting Ba321 (Reply 4):
Therefore to enter or leave the UK you MUST have a passport wherever you have come from inside or outside the EU.

Again, that's incorrect. Travel between the UK and the Republic of Ireland is governed by an arrangement called the Common Travel Area which does neither require it's own nor other nationals resident in either country to have either a valid national ID or passport to travel between the two.



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User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Swiss citizens (and I would imagine Iceland, Norway and Leichtnestein) can now travel to/within the EU with only the national ID card.

User currently offlineJfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

I have an ID card from an EU member country but I'm a "third-country national" as they call it, which means I'm not an EU citizen (I'm American). Entering the UK, I need to show my passport like all non-citizens. Occasionally during the required chat with the immigration officer, they'll ask to see my ID card if I mention I have it, as that card shows I'm a permanent resident of an EU member country.

Leaving the UK when boarding flights to the EU, all gate agents have been fine with me showing my ID card instead of passport, but I think they're in such a rush that they don't look closely at the citizenship line printed on my card.


User currently offlineJiminyman From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

Quoting F.pier (Thread starter):
F.pier

On FR site they say to use the PASSPORT, but they dont't say that the use of national ID cards, suitable for traditional check in, is not accepted for the check'n go system.

The website does state:
"Online Check-In Conditions:
Each passenger MUST present a valid EU/EEA issued passport at airport security and the departure gate."

I know this as i refused someone at the gate last night who turned up with a photo drivers license and we had to double check restrictions.


User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

Quoting Jiminyman (Reply 10):
Each passenger MUST present a valid EU/EEA issued passport at airport security and the departure gate."

So I show up with my valid Canadian passport, you are going to refuse me? I think somebody needs to rethink this one.


User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 11):
So I show up with my valid Canadian passport, you are going to refuse me? I think somebody needs to rethink this one.

I believe it just means that non-EU/EEA passengers can't use the online check-in?


User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 12):
I believe it just means that non-EU/EEA passengers can't use the online check-in?

Yes, from this link:

Passengers can check-in on-line free of charge from the comfort of their own home or office. Online check-in can be used by all passengers holding an EU/EEA passport and when travelling with hand luggage ONLY.


User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 12):
I believe it just means that non-EU/EEA passengers can't use the online check-in?

Oh well, another reason to avoid these guys.


User currently offlineF.pier From Italy, joined Aug 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Now Ryanair site, when the Check'n go procedure begins, warns that national ID cards are NOT accepted.

Well done.


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