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L-1011 N194AT Is On The Move!  
User currently onlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10349 times:

ATA L-1011-100, N194AT, s/n 1230 has been sold to a company in Miami for spares. It is leaving IND for MIA on Wed. May 24 at about 1:00p local IND time. It is going to MIA instead of OPF for all you MIA spotters. It should arrive about 3:30-4p Miami time if all goes well.


35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
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User currently offlineTheweave33 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 10293 times:

I've noticed ATA L-1011s on flightaware.com doing trans-atlantics to Dallas. Just curious but these can't be passenger flights right?

Though it is sad to see yet another go for spares. At least it's honorable.

Never got to ride one of those birds nor a tri-jet for that matter.


User currently offlinePWM2TXLHopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10247 times:

Quoting Theweave33 (Reply 1):

ATA still operates military charter operations, transporting troops overseas using their L-1011's.


User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12128 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 10202 times:

Yes, TZ still flys military R&R flights into DFW using L-1011s. We just had 2 TZ L-1011s here, at the same time, over the weekend. They were parked on the DL 5E Ramp. That is where DL use to park their L-1011s sometimes.

User currently offlineSkoker From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 439 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 10051 times:

I was lucky enough to have my first flight ever be on a TS L-1011 YYZ-MCO a few days before they retired. Nice planes, I loved the ride  Sad

User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9942 times:

So with N194AT gone now (well, in 3 hours), which L-1011s remain in ATA's fleet? Is it:

N161AT
N162AT
N163AT
N164AT
? If someone could please give a quick status of each a/c (i.e. C/D check status, impending retirement date, etc.) I would really appreciate it.


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5104 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9665 times:

Quoting Theweave33 (Reply 1):
I've noticed ATA L-1011s on flightaware.com doing trans-atlantics to Dallas. Just curious but these can't be passenger flights right?

As noted above, they are military charters. DFW is a big overseas embarkation point for international military charter flights on ATA.

Quoting Chase (Reply 5):
So with N194AT gone now (well, in 3 hours), which L-1011s remain in ATA's fleet? Is it:

N161AT
N162AT
N163AT
N164AT
? If someone could please give a quick status of each a/c (i.e. C/D check status, impending retirement date, etc.) I would really appreciate it.

You got the numbers right. Some of the dates (like next c/d check, etc.) have been published in previous threads. What I can tell you is that 163 and 164 were D-checked at GAMCO. 164 went first and came out in late 2005, whereupon 163 went in, and came out early in the 1st quarter of 2006. IIRC, the D-checks for the other two are due sometime next year. It gets a little tricky because under ATA's maint program, they normally do the D at the same time at the closest "C", so that becomes an important date in their thinking as to the financial viability of proceeding with additional maint or retiring the aircraft. Don't know what progress they are making at the moment in finding the optimal replacement, which is a 763ER.


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9625 times:

Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 6):
You got the numbers right.

... but you don't!  biggrin 

162 was the first to go in - followed by 163. 161 and 164 are due next year.



- I am LN-MOW, and I approve this message.
User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9618 times:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AMT7039


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2872 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9430 times:

Quoting Skoker (Reply 4):
I was lucky enough to have my first flight ever be on a TS L-1011 YYZ-MCO a few days before they retired. Nice planes, I loved the ride

My first flight on a real passenger a/c (not the C172 I was used to) when I was a kid was TWA L-1011 JFK-LAX r/t. Later, I became a member of the mile high club on a Delta L-1011. The L-1011 definitely has memories for me!  cry 

I would love to see it come back to JFK.



"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5104 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9308 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 9):
Later, I became a member of the mile high club on a Delta L-1011

Eeeeew. Too much disclosure. But congratulations!!! Anything you particularly liked about the L1011 lavs? Or -- god forbid -- am I assuming too much? (Please don't answer.)


User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 9105 times:

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Thread starter):
has been sold to a company in Miami for spares.

Does anybody know who that company is? Is APW putting that L1011 that has been stored in MIA back online?



"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 9004 times:

Landed yesterday 1632 on 26R

User currently onlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 17 hours ago) and read 8888 times:

Quoting ClipperNo1 (Reply 11):
Does anybody know who that company is? Is APW putting that L1011 that has been stored in MIA back online?

The company is called AVTEC. They own N306GB as of 2004. Its not longer with Arrow.

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 12):
Landed yesterday 1632 on 26R

AMTRAN 7039 Heavy landed on 8L.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13029 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 8776 times:

How long will N194AT be at MIA? Will they just dismantle and remove the most valuable parts off then scrap the rest in a few months? And why MIA, wouldn't the dessert be a better place for storage? Still, it's too bad it has to finally go to it's end  tombstone 

User currently onlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 8708 times:

As far as I know, N194AT will never leave MIA. It was specifcally flown there because that is where N306GB is located so as to save on transporting parts, engines, etc. for its repair. The rest will be presumably scrapped.

She was delivered March 8, 1982 to TWA as N8034T. Leased/purchased by ATA in March, 1994, she served us well for 12 years.

Good Bye Old Girl!



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineTreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 652 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 8421 times:

Good Bye to another beautiful trijet!
R.I.P N194AT



Allons-y!
User currently offlineMIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

I was at MIA yesturday and didn't see it, at what time did it land?

Did they blank out the ATA titles or is it in full colors?


So its going to donate parts for that white L1011 that has been there for some years now. I hope it gets repainted for a new operator. In case anyone hasn't noticed, there are no more L1011s operating at MIA.  crying   Smile

[Edited 2006-05-27 01:21:56]

User currently onlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1451 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8259 times:

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 17):
I was at MIA yesturday and didn't see it, at what time did it land?

Did they blank out the ATA titles or is it in full colors?

So its going to donate parts for that white L1011 that has been there for some years now. I hope it gets repainted for a new operator. In case anyone hasn't noticed, there are no more L1011s operating at MIA. crying Smile

It landed on May 24 at 432p local on 8L. It was parked in front of the ex-Arrow/Eastern hanger on the NE side of the field. They may have moved it over to F&E next to Commercial Jet by now to be closer to N306GB.

194 was the last ATA aircraft in the old American Trans Air blue/gold colors and it wore that livery when it landed in MIA. The new owners are supposed to paint out the titles and markings before it is parted out in accordance with the sale agreement to avoid any further references to ATA.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineWarmNuts From United States of America, joined May 2006, 94 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 8226 times:

I took a photo of two beautiful ATA Tristars at DFW a week ago today. They were lined up one behind the other on an apron just off Terminal C. I was blessed to have a chance to fly on l1011's operated by both TWA and DL back in the late 70's...  Smile

User currently offlineC5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8184 times:

My Dad probably has over 1,000 hours in N194AT... sad, sad, sad to see those GREAT airplanes go. Way advanced for it's time... still advanced to this day. UNLATCHED FOREVER!!!!!!!

User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8019 times:

Too bad to see her go...194 took me over here to Turkey last July. I would hope that one of these TZ Tri-Stars would end up as a display for the CRAF or Patriot Express in the USAF museum at Wright Patterson before they're all gone.

Big version: Width: 3308 Height: 1942 File size: 455kb


User currently offlineC5onknees From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7924 times:

B52Murph, If you went to Adana(sp?) my Dad flew that trip I believe.

User currently offlineJran225 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 308 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7879 times:

It indeed is sad to see one of my favorite birds go like this. At least I can say I've seen her (shameless plug)..


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Photo © Omar Sherbini
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Photo © Omar Sherbini



Cheers,
-Omar S.  Smile



Never tell your girlfriend about all the 'action' you're getting at the airport - only photogs understand that.
User currently offlineB52murph From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7659 times:

Quoting C5onknees (Reply 22):
B52Murph, If you went to Adana(sp?) my Dad flew that trip I believe.

Yup...still here and will be until October `06

Quoting Jran225 (Reply 23):
It indeed is sad to see one of my favorite birds go like this. At least I can say I've seen her (shameless plug)..

Does anybody know if she went to the retirement with that oddball left-engine cowling? I remembered noticing that leaving BWI last summer and see it again in the pics taken in May `05.


25 TZTriStar500 : yup, the No. 1 engine still had the gray nose and hinge cowls.
26 MIAMIx707 : I think I'm lucky to have a shot of this great looking plane at MCO in the summer of '04, one landing and one departing. One of the last (if not the l
27 Wjcandee : There are threads with more detail elsewhere, but the short answer is this: 4 are currently operating, all of which are -500s. Two have been through
28 C5onknees : WjCandee, they did'nt paint the ATA titles not because of the pixels being blown up or whatever, it was because the majority of charters picked up by
29 DTWAGENT : It is a sad day when the L-1011 does not fly any more. My 2 flight ever was on a Non-Stop DTW-TPA flight back in the 1970's. I remember boarding this
30 Post contains links and images AirEMS : I would just like to say thanks to thoes who fly our Military, to thoes in the Military, and thoes who have lost their lives while in the Military, on
31 Post contains images Jran225 : While I am totally behind you here regarding the subject of your reply, I must ask how you got to posting this in a thread dealing with N194AT's reti
32 Post contains links Wjcandee : Yeah, huh? I'll take your word for it, because your Dad flies for them, but do me a favor and note the following (look in reply 12): RE: 194AT Back I
33 Post contains images TZTriStar500 : Absolutely incorrect. It was indeed for cost, but it was decided earlier this year to go ahead and spend the money and add the rest of the scheme. Th
34 Wjcandee : Yay! Yuck. Of course it's not a public company at the moment, so we have even less to say about things but [RANT ON]: They DIDN'T spend the money for
35 Wjcandee : By the way, it's too late for me to edit this, but that's a brain cramp on my part. I meant to say 162 went first. 164 hasn't been D-checked recently
36 ATA L1011 : Very sad, I'm thinking this was the last active "passenger carrying" standard length L10 in North America, the L15's are good but nothing beats the so
37 Post contains images MIAMIx707 : the engines on the 100s sound different than on the 500s? So whats up with those decals? All for a scheme that looks weird anyways. Just paint a simp
38 C5onknees : From what I heard from the Flight Crews, it was also a problem with taking the airplanes off of the line to paint each one as they stay pretty busy, b
39 ATA L1011 : Yes Miami the 22'bs on the 1/100's sounds much different than the 524's on the -500. They much more "melidous" to the ear and they are the ones that m
40 Lufthansi : N164 was on CDG these days! They brought many soldiers along for a celebration at a military grave yard at Paris. Looked like a music corp. They arriv
41 Post contains links Wjcandee : Hey. Thank you for your report. May I suggest that you submit your photos to www.myaviation.net ? If you try to post them there, they won't be reject
42 LN-MOW : And 162 will be there in an hour or two to pick them up again ...
43 Post contains images Lufthansi : Ok I'll upload them. The link follows as I am ready with it. Thank you for your interest! That makes me smile They're uploaded but don't appear on th
44 Lufthansi : The pictures are online! search for the registration N164AT and you can see my name as the photographer. I hope you like them a bit. No a.net qualtiy
45 Wjcandee : I just reviewed them and like them all very much. Thank you for sharing them! I enjoyed the cockpit and cabin photos and I particularly liked the ext
46 Lufthansi : I don't know about the paint. But I have one more goody for you! We have another TriStar at CDG since 1 year. I took a lot of shots and I will upload
47 Wjcandee : I will! Thanks!
48 LN-MOW : I worked 164 yesterday, and if you get up close you'll see it needs some 'touchups'. It's starting to peel here and there ..... BTW - our friend at C
49 EasternSon : There's an L10 in Greensboro, does anyone know where it came from or who owns it now? Will it be put back into service, or is it a parts plane? Thanks
50 Gsoflyer : Hi, I know this is an old thread, but the L10 in Greensboro is either owned by Interlease or Tradewinds. Tradeinds used to have a fleet of 1 L1011-1F
51 MIAMIx707 : Hey, just curious how does posting a shot on myaviation.net harm you as a photographer? Stupid shots? If the photos of the last flight are yours that
52 AApilot2b : Yes. Its always nice to see those L1011s. I saw one of ATA's machines(couldn't get the registration) in Seattle last week. It was a 500.
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